To think it will all kick off on here after this is aired?

[MsScarlett]

My mum just texted me to say that tomorrow there is a documentary on BBC3 at 9pm called, "Is Breast Best?".

I predict a bunfight!

xstitch - I promise that I don't think that about c sections at all. I firmly believe that when it comes to birth it is just all about getting the baby out any which way leaving both parties healthy.
I hate all the anti drug rubbish and will have very medicalised births every time I have a baby. Without medical advances my chance of carrying a baby to term would be approx 20%. Medical intervention in birth is AMAZING.
C-section is definitely not the easy way out. The recovery! It's a major operation.
I was just trying to (obviously craply) point out to Leonie (as I did with vaccinations upthread) that things are not clear cut like she thinks. We could all get at everyone if we tried about parenting choices.

namechange - it was a joke.

Sorry!
I was just trying to illustrate how ridiculous Leonie's aching breasts were...

xstitch - thanks for that comment. I was going to report her post but I decided to let it stand as a clear indicator of her character. Perhaps it might reduce the impact of some of her upsetting comments for you and others who are offended by them.

Double WOW here....

Leonie...I know you don't know these people..but really??? FOAD????

That is so extreme...

I'm not liking the impressions I get from a few people...but I wouldn't wish them dead...just glad that my only interactions with them have been in text. and that I won't have to meet them in real life.

Sure...it's stressful looking after 2 autistic kids...I hope that you are getting a lot of support...

There's no excuse for saying what you've said on here...and again, it's donoe nothing for your cause.

pomme I have referenced your fanjo in the same spirit it was used in the other post BTW

leonie I havnt followed this thread, but you posts are rude and offensive re what you told kungfu to do. You sound very mixed me dear, you need to learn to articulate your points with a bit more consistency, dignity and sensitivity than this.

xstitch are you ok, what do you mean suicidal thoughts? That was then this is now, this poster doesnt know you in RL.

oops...typed too quick and made a couple of errors.

Probably nothing to do with the fact that I may have been FF as a baby.

leonie your reaction to KungFu is similar really to the way many ladies react to be told they are causing their child direct harm from ff etc. It's emotional because it is personal.

You don't understand why someone would take offence, now you have at KungFu, and reacted in quite an extra-ordinary way.

I don't agree with everything you say, but I was kind of enjoying a debate with you, I think it's all gone now though.

I'm a lot better today thanks namechange. Comments Leonie continued to make yesterday brought a lot of things flooding back when I was already feeling very hormonal and emmotional. Today I just want her to try and se how her comments can be seen as I don't want another mother to suffer or end up in a worse state than I did yesterday.

No sausages probably like me you are now so annoyed it is affecting your typing.

GeekCool Thu 14-Apr-11 15:08:37
leonie your reaction to KungFu is similar really to the way many ladies react to be told they are causing their child direct harm from ff etc. It's emotional because it is personal.

Can I just flag up that this reaction was in response to me querying why she is so determined to soldier on, posting these offensive things when, by her own repeated assertion, she has very little time due to her family circumstances. Not sure how this triggered the hysterical yelling.

Me neither kungfu but then I am thick I was FF. All my qualifications are entirely imaginary

Just trying to lighten the thread a little no offence intended to anyone.

kungfu I totally get that. I find the reaction interesting. The assumption of Leonie is that everyone else should deal with her bluntness and truth telling, yet we are not afforded that courtesy when speaking to her.
It speaks volumes.

Also I should, my agreement with her is that BM is superior to FF, nothing to do with comments making others feel bad. Like I said, shame, as I do like a good debate.

*should add

fuck off and die? Leonie, judging by that comment and the rest you've made on this thread, your BM is about the only good thing you've got to offer your children.

...and crosstitch I do think you are a little vulnerable at the moment (having just read your comment re suicide) to be on this forum. There's been a lot of well meaning advice...but there's been a lot of repetition of your feelings of worthlessness on here in spite of that.

I think that you need some professional counselling and should maybe start looking for that rather than spending all day on here...for your sake AND that of your child.

Of course it's entirely up to you to do as you please....this is just my two-penn'orth. Take it or leave it.

GeekCool Thu 14-Apr-11 15:14:35
kungfu I totally get that. I find the reaction interesting. The assumption of Leonie is that everyone else should deal with her bluntness and truth telling, yet we are not afforded that courtesy when speaking to her.
It speaks volumes.

Sorry - I thought you were saying I had said something akin to her comments about harming children. I am a little bemused by her reaction and by the comments about a lack of "consistency, sensitivity and dignity".

xstitch I'm the same. I'm amazed that, thanks to being FF, I can read beyond the level of a ten year old :)

xstitch I see, read further up the thread too, I am glad you feel better today. I had PND I know is not same but whenever bad thoughts/memories come back to me I do tell myself they belong to back then. You made the most logical and best choice for your DC at the time to keep her alive adn healthy FFS which is exactly what a mother does. And those people who said those awful judgmental things to you will pass on there awful ignorant attitudes to there pbf DC's which is far worse IMO. You really did do the right thing for you and your DD doing the right thing means doing different things as we are all different and circumstances are different - those people who said that to you in RL are unable to grasp this concept.

kungfu No not at all. I was more referring to earlier on Leonie had mentioned a long the lines of her not being blunt and that telling someone the truth or correcting what they say is not being mean.
I found it interesting when you took her up on her 'too busy with life' statement that you received such a vitriolic attack.

Does that make more sense?

leonie I am sorry if you are having a bad day, but I do doubt it is the most stressful day in history.

'You have no right to comment on my life, my time'

but apparently you have the right to comment on my life and my time, nastily at that. I am going to take the advice of others and leave this thread before I lose the self control that is stopping me from telling a certain poster the opinion I have now formed of her.

I am not ignoring my child btw she is away on holiday with her dad for a couple of days.

Leonie - I don't think it's fair or justified to take out your stresses on everyone else.

I think there are more constructive ways to spend your time...and you and your children would probably benefit.

Take a walk maybe...get some fresh air!?