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To be Disturbed by this woman in a Burka? ......

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Gingefringe · 11/04/2011 16:45

I saw a very strange event in Debenhams make-up counter this week-end which on reflection, I found very disturbing.
A woman in a full burka (including her eyes covered in thin veil) came up to the make-up counter with a man (presumably DH). The man then proceeded to ask about foundation for the woman and had a conversation with the sales assistant which rarely included the woman at all (apart from trying on a sample colour on her hand).
I felt so sorry for the poor woman - not only to be forced to wear this ridiculous veil but she wasn't allowed even to chose her own make-up!
I did give the man my best evil looks but he didn't seem to notice - perhaps because I was a woman!! I was too cowardly to say anything.

On the day that France bans the burka I wonder whether you would have said anything?

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littleducks · 11/04/2011 21:54

Well you are wrong goodbyemrschips. I have worked and am currently at uni for the second time and its all hunky dory.

There are several strict orthodox jewish girls on my course too, who don't socialise with men either.....

nijinsky · 11/04/2011 21:54

It seems a terrible shame to exclude 50% of the population from possible friendship, or even informal chat.

goodbyemrschips · 11/04/2011 21:54

STRANGE!

computermouse · 11/04/2011 21:58

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squeakytoy · 11/04/2011 21:58

There are plenty of non-muslim married women in this country who do not socialise with men other than when in the company of their husbands. There are also plenty of muslim women, who go out socially, without their husbands, and where they may be other men.

This is the UK, not Saudi.

wubblybubbly · 11/04/2011 21:58

Ahh, see 'informal chat', well I don't count those as friends, otherwise it would cost me a bloody fortune in birthday cards. If that makes me strange in your world, then I'm kinda rather pleased about that.

firstsupermum · 11/04/2011 21:59

you are just a tabloid junky, responding to a media hype..... have you asked any women who wears the veil if she feels abused if no dont asumes things. every colture and religion has its own idetity.

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wubblybubbly · 11/04/2011 22:00

Although I did once have a boyfriend who questioned me over every single man I ever spoke to, even the bus driver.

He wasn't muslim though.... Confused

YouaretooniceNOT · 11/04/2011 22:00

wel your dh is and that is all that counts eh? lol

muslim females...

still not admitting eh?

you would shame your dh and family if you went out for a meal etc at night with a male friend and somebody whom knew you and dh spotted you

such a shame

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yes or no?

mama2plusbump · 11/04/2011 22:00

Nijinsky- maybe you havent met any due to how narrow minded your views are? You really dont see any muslim women at toddler groups? School runs? Women gym? Women swimming lessons? Library? University? The high street? Come to london.

wubblybubbly · 11/04/2011 22:01

Every woman I know is a freak computermouse, I suppose that's why we're friends Grin

nijinsky · 11/04/2011 22:01

I am still struggling to understand why women would choose to wear such a restrictive garment as the burqa.

I would have thought the average person's clothing is dictated by desire to fit in and appropriatness to the weather conditions. The Burqa seems designed to stand out and do absolutely the opposite from fitting in the UK. It seems utterly impractical.

I'm struggling to think of any other outfit at any other time in any other culture that required everything but the eyes to be covered. Can anyone else think of such a thing?

HHLimbo · 11/04/2011 22:02

teatowels - how would you know computermouse, you dont have any male friends!

I have male friends and they regularly borrow teatowels to wear on their heads.

its not Hmm, in fact it looks completely sensible when you compare them to the women.

mama2plusbump · 11/04/2011 22:03

Youarenottonice! Lol its un blanking you as you just grt ito s bigger hissy fit!

Ignore ignore ignore!

YouaretooniceNOT · 11/04/2011 22:04

yes, better than admitting i guess for you

goodnight my delusional people

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nijinsky · 11/04/2011 22:04

mama2plusbump do you actually have to wear the burqa 100% of the time whenever you go outside the house? What if you decide to cycle to work one nice day to be more environmentally friendly? Would it not get caught in the chain? (you will have to give me some cultural leeway for asking this question as I am half Dutch and it is second nature to us to travel by bike). What if you want to go to a nice lake and have a swim on a hot day?

wubblybubbly · 11/04/2011 22:06

HHLimbo, you've got internet access, would it be too much to google it? Do you prefer to sound stupid racist ill informed?

HHLimbo · 11/04/2011 22:06

Goodpoint wubbly, a man who freaked out if his partner socialised with men would be considered abusive.

A woman who wore the equivalent of a paper bag over her head, or worse, never went out, would be considered to have mild mental health problems.

Call me names if you find it hard to accept (i expect the militants will), but this is the truth.

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littleducks · 11/04/2011 22:07

YouaretooniceNOT As i said before I dont socialise with men, so it wouldnt happen but lets say I was in your scenario, I dont think anybody would be interested enough to think twice about it let alone pass comment to my dh.....unless I was kissing/sitting on his lap and they thought I was having an affair, but I think mutual friends might be Hmm at that whatever religion/culture I was

mama2plusbump · 11/04/2011 22:08

Anyhow! To those who were interested i hope i have enlightend you a little to show you not all women are forced amd oppressed and infact are normal whatever that may be.

Seriously read the book from my sisters lip by naima b roberts and have a look at the magasize sisters.
And to those of you who want to free us,dont worry we are free try freeing yourself from your ignorant,narrow minded, stereotypical and often racist views.
( makes herself a mn badge to put on the nappy bag)

HHLimbo · 11/04/2011 22:08

Excuse me, women walking around with paper bags (or equivalent) on their heads is not nice.

Religion pushing them to do it is not nice.

You need to get your priorities in order.

YouaretooniceNOT · 11/04/2011 22:08

You have a dirty mnd littleducks - platonic friendship in my scenario does not involve kissing etc

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