Aibu to be angry with people who do not buy free range eggs?

[ohnoudidnt]

I know that they cost more, but surely it is worth the extra to know the bird has had a better standard of living.

Well said goodbyemrschips (have agreed with you on a fewr threads recnetly ) - yes, I am happy to buy 2 for £5 chickens and donate the money I save to charities for the elderly.

I do not understand the British obsession with animal welfare

in the pecking order i value people before hens,and i respect that people do what they have to do to get by.im not sentimental about a hen when someone doesn't have a pot to piss in

when you have disposable income and a few bawbees in your pocket then you get moist about the animals,otherwise id prioritise real people make difficult choices and scraping by

and as posed earlier on if skint
15 supermarket reared in a matchbox or 6 free range
...box of 15 please

what thingumy said
and
the calorific value of chicken has had to be re-evaluated in recent years as due to the shit they are being fed, they now contain more fat and rubbish we cannot digest effectively.
this is a direct of intensive battery farming
(yes, trotting that old chestnut out, apols to those who know this already)

i don't understand the almighty poverty top trumps going on here, those of you who say you can't afford to buy free range/organic whatever and it's up to you what you do with your money, if you had the extra money, would you still buy the cheap stuff?

if not, get angry at the bastards supermarkets who drive the prices as high as they can.

What scottishmummy said.

Well said scottishmummy.

scottishmummy

By the sound of it you wouldn't do differently even if you had more money.

Ragwort, if you need to have it explained to you that animals are living,sentient beings who feel pain and fear and other 'human' emotions and should as such be treated without cruelty - if you cannot understand that - what can I say. Very sad.

British people care about animal welfare, because it is an issue worth caring about. No living being, human or animal, should suffer or be treated cruelly, and thankfully most people seem to understand that.

One think that hasn't been mentioned yet is what it does to the workers who have to actually work in the battery units. I can't imagine it is very good for their sense of self worth or do you not give a shit about them either?

Bloody hell, it's fast moving.

youcangetpregnantstandingup, I meant if you're looking at all the animal products you use you'd have to be very dedicated, a lot of people just can't be arsed (to put it bluntly) or have other priorities in their lives like illness/coping with stroppy children.

That does't mean I/we don't care about animals, chickens are intelligent in their own way, but like other people have said I feel more concern for children having to root about in bins for food, or women being beaten to a pulp on a weekend.

Strongly disagree that animal welfare is a trivial matter.

scottishmummy - when you have disposable income and a few bawbees in your pocket then you get moist about the animals...

How revolting. What a vile way of putting it.

There doesn't need to be a choice, actually. You don't have to choose between feeding your family and avoiding cruelty to animals. You can do both. I do. Nobody needs to buy cheap torture chicken, or value eggs. Sorry. I have been a single mother on benefits and I never resorted to that.

Thingumy Fri 08-Apr-11 21:31:55
I'm more cross at supermarketstescos that have provided the cheap chicken for the masses than the people buying the cheap chicken because it feeds their family.

There is no winner in it all apart from tescos. The chicken has no quality of life,it pays the farmer a pittance,you end up feeding your kids shitty inferior meat,tescos rakes in the profits.

yep. If I can afford to that particular week I will buy freerange. but if I cant, then I will buy the 3 for £10 stuff, because those 3 chickens will feed us for a week, ditto the eggs. luckily, the shop by ds's school sell FR eggs 79p for 6 so 9 times out of 10 I will buy those.

in fact, I will take thingumy's argument further. instead of being angry with the people trying to feed a family on a tiny budget, be angry at a society that allows famillies to live in poverty with no hope of improving their situation and unscupulous companies to take advantage of this.

You can eat more cheaply and healthily by not eating meat at all than eating nasty battery chickens/eggs or intensively reared meat.

You see, I can come to terms with the fact that people have difficult decisions to take. I have known extreme poverty, and appreciate that some people put aside their principles when the decision is to feed their family or not.

However, this sentiment: "I don't give a toss about chickens' living conditions" makes me despair. I simply cannot understand any decent human being disregarding the life of another creature so casually. Anyone who really thinks like that can only be sub-human in my opinion.

if you're that bloody skint what are you doing even thinking about buying eggs or meat. be vegan for a few weeks -you'll save tonnes of cash ( well a bit) and shed a few pounds too.xx
i have chickens at the end of my garden - they are ace and love to peck around and have dust baths and make me see that they are actually breathing living beings. the only people who win out of all this cheap meat/eggs crap is bloody Tesco's etc as usual.

I've said already that I do normally buy free range eggs and meat. I have done so when poor before.

I can't when poor on this particular occasion as our food budget is so arse clenchingly low.

And yes, shockingly, I value the nutrition of my family over a fairly pointless gesture of not buying free range eggs this week in particular when battery eggs are going to be banned next year anyway.

Ragwort, I agree, and this is a British thing. Where I live I have NEVER seen anyone pick the $6 free range over the $3 pack of 18, never. And the Organic Milk is $10 verses $4 for non organic. People can't afford it in this day and age, and to get angry at them, for what end.

Youcan, that's very admirable. Why can't you accept that other people might have different priorities?

When I was a single mother in the early 90s people used to tell us [the single mothers] that we should all sell our tvs if we were so poor.

That tenner would have bought a weeks worth of electric and gas. We would still be poor and have no telly.

I suppose the 'if you are so poor why do you have the internet?' is the 2011 equivalent. Makes about as much sense.

Agent - youcangetpregnantstandingup, I meant if you're looking at all the animal products you use you'd have to be very dedicated, a lot of people just can't be arsed (to put it bluntly) or have other priorities in their lives like illness/coping with stroppy children.

You really don't have to be very dedicated! I have a family of seven and a job and yes it requires a little bit of thinking at first but it is not hard to try and cut out cruel products from your life. Even if you go vegetarian rather than vegan. If you have access to the internet, which we all do, there is a wealth of resources with advice.

So I don't buy the 'no money' or 'no time' arguments.

people deal with their immediate and make choices. money and disposable income facilitate greater choice,for those fortunate enough to have this option. hectoring or dinsey sentimentality chickens have feelings too doesn't put food on your table

Hang on. I am very confused. Can someone tell me what eggs/meat I should be buying as someone who does care about animal welfare but does all my shopping in a supermarket? At the moment I buy organic. But one or two posters have said this could actually be crueller!

*Ragwort, if you need to have it explained to you that animals are living,sentient beings who feel pain and fear and other 'human' emotions and should as such be treated without cruelty - if you cannot understand that - what can I say. Very sad.

British people care about animal welfare, because it is an issue worth caring about. No living being, human or animal, should suffer or be treated cruelly, and thankfully most people seem to understand that.*

So what are you saying if they are slaughtered in a human way thats ok then?

And how exactly do you do that?

Why should someone be a vegan just because it doesn't fit in with what you agree with?

MarianneM - You can eat more cheaply and healthily by not eating meat at all than eating nasty battery chickens/eggs or intensively reared meat.

Well said!

Millie,I do accept that people sadly don't rate not feeding their families cruelly produced crap as highly as I do. I just don't agree with it.