Fucking stupid people

[knittedbreast]

They have only gone and burnt down 50k worth of play equiptment at the local play park.

Thanks

Why?

maryz my son has SN. I find any verbal abuse abhorrent - including that directed at the OP.

If people want tolerance and respect, it should be offered out too.

Thats my opinion.

Like I said before, I don't like confrontation at all.

alotofchocolate, ok... gimme something about your kids so that I can take cheap shots at them then, cos it's perfectly ok isn't it... don't want the pc police spoiling the fun round here....

Maryz. I don't like the word and I certainly dislike anybody insulting disabled people, or in fact not realising why what they have said is insulting. I argued until I was blue on the Frankie Boyle/Jordan thread a few months ago about the importance of respecting disabled people and the power of certain words.

However, this thread has taken a turn that I completely disapprove of. Much as I dislike disablist comments I fucking abhor bullying. Giving somebody a 'virtual kicking' on a site such as this is not something I can blithely stand by and watch.

'cannot'

I think disablists are cunts.
Does this help?
Thought not.

Hmmm

basically all offensive words come down to offend a minority because you want to offend that particular person or who they are.

Racial abuse is very sort of clear cut- by saying the 'n' word youre making your hatred towards that race known. The 'R' word is used commonly as a substitute for being 'a bit silly' sometimes. Sometimes people use it self deprecatingly. It's not MEANT to be directly offense to a certain minority group ALL the time. From my perspective, somtimes it is better to get the connotations behind words changed by USING them to mean different things. Will the 'r' word always be offensive in the future? No. Just like saying 'youre so gay' isnt so offensive now as it used to be.

That doesnt mean you CANT be offended by the 'r' word, but it's a bit too much to go on and on when someone was NOT TRYING to offend you.

YOu are all over the top it was a post on MN not said to anyone!!!!!!! hope you find that suitably anoying!!!!! Cheers but can look after my own dc and don't need mumsnet mafia to do it for me, get a grip am assuming none of you ever use language that others find offensive. what perfect upstanding members of the community you are give yourselves a big pat on thye back,

Maryz - have you read the thread? OP got a nasty kicking and she DID apologise. And she was not being disablist.

A poster has said she likes giving disablist people a 'virtual kicking.' Personally I think that is bullying.
I do not believe the OP was intending to be disablist. This thread was after all, nothing to do with disabled people.

So by that token, Iwantadog, would it be acceptable to you to call someone the n word as long as they're not black and it was said in a silly way?

I don't think a 'virtual kicking' is in order, but nor do I think we should take casual disablism lying down.

Some disabled people are vulnerable. Others are quite capable of standing up for themselves. Actually, I think DP would rather be called the r word than patronised.

That was me. I think that offensive views should be challenged when I encounter them, otherwise nothing changes and the situation remains vile for that portion of the community that is being targeted.
I did also discuss playparks and vandalism in two of my posts, attempting to move the thread on, but iwantadogbutarabbitwoulddo wanted to return to the subject. So I did.

Plus the apology was of the "I'm sorry that you were offended" type rather than the "I'm sorry for causing offence", followed by attempts at justification.

Basically no-one gives a shit about the acid and the glass and the burning and all the rest of it

I simply don't think it can be construed from the OPs postings that she hates disabled people, that she verbally abuses children with disabilities in real life, and that she picked on disabled children when she was at school. This thread has gone way way over the top.

There are people on here who will defend the use of the word paki, amongst others, yes.

They are not in the majority though, and neither are the people who are defending the use of this word. There are about 2 of them.

She said sorry. I think some of the accusations that have been levelled at her are bizarre, frankly.

If somebody came on here and said 'Paki', not really understanding why people would be offended, then realised they were. If they then apologised, I think that would be OK.

, go find another troll to hunt, you are all perfect, congratulations, i am so happy you all live your lives in such a just and virtuous way, op was making a point you have hijacked it, and turned it into something its not, yes the people who burned down the play area were wrong to do it are we at least agreed on that? how totaly shocking on mumsnet

'Lol' at irony somebody has started a thread headed 'retarded ejaculation.'

Doesn't that prove it's all about context

I hate to generalise, but you can blame a lot of American television programmes for the increase in the use and misunderstanding of the terms retard/retarded/spaz.

They have different meanings in America and I have seen a steady rise in their use since Freeview & Sky etc became the norm in most homes. More channels, more imported TV programmes, more change in language.

I detest the words with every cell in my being but try to influence and educate people by politely pointing out why, rather than insulting them or arguing with them.

So we all agree that burning down a playpark is a Bad Thing, and the people who did it are selfish and inconsiderate individuals?
Without assuming anything else about them.