morality police

[Mariez]

I find it quite ironic how the police arrest and prosecute protested for smashing up windows on marches against massive companies not paying tax, but do they go in and arrest chairmen of these giant companies when they too are breaking the law?

No.

it seems the police are picking and choosing what law breakers they arrest....

stinks.

erm i wasnt state educated. careful with your assumptions

what do you do for a living Mariez?

Darling, I am assuming you have not been educated at all. At any rate, private education is regulated by the state, so my point remains salient.

I find your ignorance, anger and incoherence rather sinister, and will leave you to sturdier Mumsnetters. Have a .

"we should at least all be protesting about the state of the education system."

State system wasn't specified, just the education system in general.

"careful with your assumptions"

I just snorted. I'm turning into my mother.
Still wondering what it is you want the police to do?

I think Red Ed comparing the march to the causes of the suffragettes, anti-apartheid campaigners and the race-segregation in America decades ago was pathetic and insulting.
A march for the alternative? let's hear the alternative then. I've yet to hear logical, workable suggestions.

I still want to know whether your views extend to condoning violent protest against abortion and homosexuality and other things that people get weirdly morally twisted and uptight about, or if it is only ok to protest violently when you agree with the cause?

Oh yes, like those total morons individuals who decided to turn Trafalgar Square into Tahrir Square.
How fucking insulting to the Egyptians. Fighting against 30 years of dictatorships and human rights abuses does NOT equate to complaining about cuts to get out of an economic hole. Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with the government's plans, but I wouldn't put them on par with a dictatorship.

some people need to pull their heads out of their asses

agree with that twirly.

but we do have to do something. writing to mps isnt going to cut it. how do you ensure a protest stays peaceful? how can you be sure it wont turn violent? id and check everyone before they are allowed? that would just mean that only those they want would be allowed to protest?

I think we need a mass walk out, public and private.

A friends DH is self-employed, and his accountant helps him to pay as little tax as possible, by claiming VAT back, writing off certain purchases against tax etc.
He is a good accountant. He is doing his job.

So what are you protesting against, and what are you proposing as a solution?

Cutting funding - painful but necessary. The country is running out of money, and cuts need to be made
Raising taxes - as above. The UK needs money

March by all means (I have but not on Saturday, and enjoyed it), but there is no excuse whatsoever for vandalism under any banner.

How much did those idiots cost us the taxpayer in clean up costs, police overtime, loss of tourism, loss of income to the vandalised businesses?

i dont think you can say we can treat all things we are not happy with in the same way.

People have a choice whether they have abortions, they can either choose to or not. if you dont like them, dont live next to a clinic.

but the way the gov run the country, their rules and laws we dont control. thats when large scale action is required, some violence will occur. it always does. its a crying shame when the all the press report on is the violence of some, not the contents of the speeches, or the other protestors.

Chuh! This is embarrassing.

Stop it, you're making a fool of yourself. Even the most left wing, government hating, protest agreeing with people, LIKE ME can see that you are spouting nonsense.

You are making me hot in the face.

your posts are incredibly ignorant and rather childlike in that respect.

Whether you were state or privatly educated means nothing, you are trying to equate two very different things. It is a ridiculous argument to try and make and to start getting arsey because that has been pointed out to you is laughable.

You still haven't said what you do for a living Mariez

"I think we need a mass walk out, public and private."..... because? How does downing tools get Britain out of a recession or protect jobs and pensions? You've only to look back to the 1970s when an oil crisis & high inflation mixed with lousy industrial relations & constant strikes sent this country back to the Dark Ages, to see what a short-sighted strategy that is.

Mob rule nearly finished this country.

some people really feel it is morally wrong for women to have abortions, they want the law to be changed, they protest violently - it is a shit example but you seem to be saying that we have the right to damage property and endanger life if we oppose certain laws, is this what you are saying?

Thats what happens when the lunatics take over the asylum Chil

why does what i do for a living have anything to do with it?

because? we need to make a real stand. there is no other way things will change.

You just seem to be spouting "down with that sort of thing", without specifics.

You're against the government making laws? Depending on the law, a lot of it is not actually drawn up by the government/parliament itself. IME most of it is drawn up by the section of society/industry most affected by it, and then it goes through Parliament etc. etc. etc.
Are you proposing that the public gets to write their own laws?

But why is there a need for violence, if you have a legitimate protest fine, you don't need to attack property and people to prove it? Of course the press are going to report violence, it's a much better story. If the marchers want their point expressed then the violence has to go. Did you vote Mariez, do all your friends vote? So many people complain about governments (not just this one), but don't get out there and vote and if you don't then you can't complain. If you do, then you have to put up with it until next time - it's called democracy. You might not like it, but it doesn't give you the right to go out and vandalise stuff.

can there ever be a thread where the OP's idiocy isn't used as an excuse to make fun of mental illness

"but the way the gov run the country, their rules and laws we dont control."

Have they gotten rid of democracy in Britain?