to consider moving my baby into his nursery?

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Put this in parenting but didn't get any luck, any help appreciated. I have an 8 week old son who currently sleeps in a Moses basket in our room, only problem is ay night he wakes very easily due to noise, such as when my husband and I turn over in bed we have an old metal framed bed and when it creaks he wakes, starts frying and wants to be comforted if (just occasionally thank god) my husband let's out a loud snore, again the baby wakes and wants to be comforted.
The baby is overtired a lot in the day due to lack of sleep at night (luckily can now get him down for naps) and I am exhausted from constantly waking.
It's too early to try him in his nursery with a monitor though isn't it?

The biggest drop came after the advice to sleep on the back was introduced in 1992. Since then it's been a fairly stable number.

ps, hope you're all using dummies. If not, why not????

Flippancy aside, let's bear in mind that the cot death rate is 0.5 per 1000 live births, so 1 in 2000, which equates to a likelihood of 0.05% (1/20th of 1%).

The FSID (in their leaflet) don't even dedicate more than a cursory bullet point to the rooming in issue. The most important factors, which get an explantory paragraph seem to be

• back to back

-smoking

• overheating
• feet to foot (suffocation risk)
• co-sleeping
• illness

-dummy use

Interestingly when I took ds home from SCBU ( born at 32 wks, came home at 35 weeks) not one nurse or doctor suggested sleeping in the same room as him, even though he had been prem.

I thought dummy use reduced the risk of SIDS?

If you want to move her do. My DS were both in their own room from 10 days old and will prob do the same with no.3. Had a monitora nd always preferred getting out of bed to feed in a chair in the nursery. Found feeding in bed uncomfortable and its eemd mad tow ake DH up every time.

DS1 went into own room at about 4 months (he was 6 weeks prem) and DS2 at about 3.5 months. Both when moses basket was looking a bit small. Agree with other posters that we all sleep better. I was and am still BFing DS2 (now 7.5 months). His room across the hall from us, both doors open and went in to feed when he called. I think it helps them to settle themselves rather than being leapt on by sleep deprived parents at the slightest snuffle or twitch (only my humble opinion of course). DS2 has gradually moved from 2-3 nightly feeds to none and we all sleep excellently ... apart from 4 year old DS1 who wakes at 5:30 but that's an entirely different story!

But surely they are on their own between their bedtime and yours? Or do people keep their babies downstairs with thme until they go to bed up to 6 months? Mine both were in bed upstairs by 7.30 ish after baths, is that not normal?

I thought dummy use reduced the risk of SIDS?

Yes, it does*. Sorry, I meant "use a dummy" not "don't use a dummy"

*disclaimer- it correlates with lower rates of SIDS. No research has proved a causational effect. For example, one theory is that babies that are poorer/lighter sleepers are more likely to be given a dummy. It may be that these babies don'd become victims of SIDS because they wake up when they stop breathing.

All of my four babies have slept with me until a year or over. I would have gotten less sleep worrying about them in another room and would have probably gotten up at least 20 times a night to check they were still breathing.

But that's just me, I wanted my babies to sleep next to me.

A close friend put her babies into their own rooms from the day they came home from the hospital, her choice. We are both different people who parent differently.

I think you have to do what feels right for you and your baby.

I wouldn't and didn't, as people have said read the guidance, make your choice, not worth the risk IMHO.

My DH is a paramedic and having made many early morning calls to devastated parents over the years, we followed the guidelines to the letter, and even used the angelcare monitor after dd moved into her own room, the night it went off aged my about 5 years, thankfully she's just crawled into the corner.

I wouldn't - you are leaping into unknown territory, there is a lot of research to support babies sleeping with parents until 6 months & the possible consequences of ignoring these guidelines are tragic. Why take a risk? Please remember that it is natural and often as with breastfeeding, this is by far the best route to take. You can't ignore the simple fact that more babies die from cot death when sleeping alone. I think the only answer if you move her is a two way monitor but I would pack the bed frame up (put it in self storage) for 6 months & sleep on the floor. You might even find it fun & it will be great for her when she is rolling as she can never hurt herself by rolling off the bed (a very common accident)!

Teaonesugar- but the FSID think the risk is so small, that they don't even bother expanding on the bullet point in their advisory leaflet.

Aso, to put it in perspective,

Risk of dying of SIDS: 1 in 2000
Risk of dying in a car crash: 1 in 200

Havent had time to read everyones responses but we moved over at about 8 weeks for the same reason. Most parents who have had 2 kids will tell you the first was in their room for 8 - 12 weeks, second was kicked out at 3 weeks!

Most parents who have had 2 kids will tell you the first was in their room for 8 - 12 weeks, second was kicked out at 3 weeks!

...... and first one gets a nightly bath and massage, next one gets wiped down with a j-cloth every few days

baggedandTagged

If you think about what my DH has seen and done in his job, you'll appreciate why for us even a small risk was too big.

DH is also obsessive about baby/childrens car seats, for the same reason.

teaonesugar

That's the thing- your Dh has an (understandably) skewed persepctive. it's like you can't ask the parents of murder victims if they think the death sentence should be reintroduced because their personal experiences make it impossible for them to make an objective decision.

However, when people say "read the research", all I can say is "I have, and based on the odds, I don't think the risk is significant", especially compared to other factors which carry as much, if not more risk, but which you accept on an everyday basis.

teaonesugar if you look at the risk factors above from BaggedandTagged then I don't think anyone of us would accept them on an everyday basis. Also there are Mothers of murder victims who forgive the perpetrator & do not agree with the death penalty. I don't think understanding the harsh realities of life as her DH does makes his perspective skewed - he just can't forget that it happens which is surely only a sensible view. I believe many of us make slightly selfish choices in life because we weigh up our chances of something going wrong & think it won't happen to me, but it just might!

DD1 outgrew the Moses basket after 10 weeks and DD2 after 8 weeks so there really wasn't much option other than to put them in a cot in their own room as the cot wouldn't fit in our room.

fijibird- but people die in car crashes every day but it doesn't mean you don't get in a car.

I totally understand teaonesugar's DH's POV. What I'm saying is that he's not in the best position to objectively weigh up the risks because he is involved in the cases where it goes wrong. He doesn't get called out to see a baby sleeping perfectly fine in it's cot, so it naturally skews your perspective. So if the risks of SIDS are 1 in 2000, of 100 babies he sees, maybe 10 are dead, so his odds are more like 10%.

Never ask MN stuff like this. If you want to do it, if not don't. MN will always give you one answer only on the 6 months Goebbels propaganda machine.

I think you should do what you think best and that if you decide to move your baby to its own room you would NBU.

I agree with baggedandtagged posts on this.

It's a personal choice for everyone, we made our choices, partly for DHs peace of mind, but also because for us it made more sense to follow the guidelines than not to follow them.

One dd outgrew the carrycot we borrowed a crib (long but still quite narrow) from DHs colleague (new mattress) and she slept in that until she was old enough to move into a cotbed in her own room.

I suppose I'm just saying it does happen, and once it has, it's too late, and that wasn't a risk we were prepared to take, but everyone must make their own choices.

I moved both of mine at about 7/8 weeks into their own room and we all slept so much better. It was a bit of a faf getting up and going into another room to feed but we had a comfortable chair so it was OK. This time we will have a single bed in the nursery so I can use that if I need to.

I read the literature and weighed the relative risk given the higher RR of other modifiable RFs as well as the absolute risk.

I'm with baggedandtagged - risk of death is much higher with other activities.

DS has almost always been in his own room.