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To think breast fed babies are more intellegent

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thecatamongthepidgeons · 13/03/2011 19:52

Because their parents tend to be more intellegent not because they were breast fed?
More intellegent parents are more likely to choose to breast feed regardless of any dificulties they face if they think it will benefit their children.

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StealthPolarBear · 13/03/2011 22:52

"southeastastra Sun 13-Mar-11 21:40:43
most older middle class women can afford to sit on their arses alot more "

Very true :o

Want2bSupermum · 13/03/2011 23:02

My mother and MIL and both pushing me to breastfeed for at least a year and are actively pushing pumps and all sorts of other equipment onto me. I am more relaxed about these things as other things such as balancing work, husband and baby are more important to me. I think finding a good daycare for our child will have a greater influence on our child than breastfeeding.

BeerTricksPotter · 13/03/2011 23:06

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StealthPolarBear · 13/03/2011 23:08

who, what and huh??

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annapolly · 13/03/2011 23:09

I have three DCs all breast fed. One an amazingly high IQ, one slightly above average, and one is a hairdresser.

Explain that then.

FabbyChic · 13/03/2011 23:10

You jest? My son is a member of Mensa, he is going to get a first in his Maths degree, his brother is following the same path, neither were breast fed.

What a load of shit.

Habbibu · 13/03/2011 23:13

anna, it's explained by (a) the studies being at population level and not about individuals or families (b) the points difference at population level being very small and (c) hairdressing not having a bearing on IQ

Habbibu · 13/03/2011 23:14

And the same goes to Fabby. Except for the hairdressing bit which isn't relevant. Mensa Schmensa, though.

boosmummie · 13/03/2011 23:20

I have four DCs. DD1 BF, pretty intelligent when she tries. DD2 FF, super bloody intelligent, DS BF/FF average, but lazy and DD3 BF - I wonder at times how she'll ever get anywhere, she is only 2 but prefers to walk around with a box on her head most of the time. In her wellies. And lying down in puddles.

Grin at annapolly sums it up really!!!

eviscerateyourmemory · 13/03/2011 23:27

You would be hard pressed to spot an IQ difference of a few points without an IQ test, so comparing children depending on how they were fed as infants isnt likely to reveal much.

As has been said earlier, the difference is not one that would make a child a genius if they would have been of lower than average intelligence (or vice versa).

comeandsitbythefire · 13/03/2011 23:35

MissyKLo

'but your post is gonna create a stir! a biggggggg stir!'

Really? I think most people have been quite adult so far.

StayingDavidTennantsGirl · 13/03/2011 23:41

I am intelligent. My children are intelligent (ds1 and ds2 both went to selective grammar schools). However, I failed to breastfeed with all three of them. The horrible feeling of failure contributed to postnatal depression with each one.

OP - thanks a big bunch for adding to the guilt felt by mothers like me.

I have told my story so many times on this site - and yet there are still ill-informed, bigotted and frankly hurtfully stupid original posts like this.

My first instinct was just to come on here and tell the OP to fuck off, and when she got there, to fuck off some more, but maybe what I have said first will sink in.

I feel sick to my stomach every time I read posts like this, and worry about women like me - if I had read this whilst struggling with PND, soon after the births of any of the boys, I would probably have committed suicide - I was close to it on many occasions, and this would have pushed me over the edge.

Would it be too much to expect that people might think about the hurt they could cause before posting dreck like this? Yes - it obviously would.

AngrySadAngrySadAngrySadAngrySadAngrySad

pommedeterre · 13/03/2011 23:44

Ooo love the 2 for 1 on the SAHM vs WOHM jab on a bfing is best thread. Genius.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. These 6 IQ point discussions make me very glad DH was ff from birth. Could not deal with him being even 6 points more intelligent.

PigeonMalteserMadness · 13/03/2011 23:47

I used to think I was fairly intelligent but I have been spelling Malteser wrongly throughout the thread in my name until now.

I've eaten enough of the buggers in my life that you would think I'd know Hmm, but apparently not.

comeandsitbythefire · 13/03/2011 23:55

That's why we've all said a little something StayingDavidTennantsGirl, Most people on this thread, unlike others have been supportive, I feel for you.

bibbitybobbityhat · 13/03/2011 23:58

Have you read the thread or just the op stdg?

MissVerinder · 14/03/2011 00:03

YABU. My mum breastfed me because she couldn't work the kettle.

MissVerinder · 14/03/2011 00:05

and i am as thick as two short planks.

BeerTricksPotter · 14/03/2011 00:07

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BaggedandTagged · 14/03/2011 00:24

I can't really understand the ire against the OP. It's well documented that there is a significant social skew in terms of women that choose to bf in the UK, and we know that intelligence has a huge genetic factor.

If anything, the OP is supporting ff by suggesting that its these factors, and not any advantage of bf over ff that results in the study outcomes which say that bf babies are more intelligent.

Please note the use of the words "more likely". This means that the OP acknowledges that is not always the case, so people writing "well I have an IQ of 3000 and still chose to ff" or "I ff and my DC is president of Mensa" should attend to their basic comprehension skills.

I would, however, probably replace "intelligent" with "better educated" as the two are not synonymous.

BeerTricksPotter · 14/03/2011 00:28

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mylovelymonster · 14/03/2011 00:32

I hope you have very good statistically proven data to back this up. Otherwise, your f**d.

mylovelymonster · 14/03/2011 00:33

OMG tis late, and I'm enjoying a small scotch, meant 'you're'. No pedants about this time - all in bed with a cup o'cocoa around 9, I believe.....

Morloth · 14/03/2011 00:39

I dunno I breastfeed mine forever and this morning DS1 had his shoes on the wrong feet and his shorts on backwards and couldn't see the problem with these things.

And when the baby bangs his head, he does it again just check that it really did hurt.

My sons, poster children for breastfeeding makes you smart.

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