To think breast fed babies are more intellegent

[thecatamongthepidgeons]

Because their parents tend to be more intellegent not because they were breast fed?
More intellegent parents are more likely to choose to breast feed regardless of any dificulties they face if they think it will benefit their children.

the first mrs devere good post but the other day a lady asked about warming her bottles in public (i think you were on it)and some spitefull cow came on and said maybe you should bf then, to be fair she was put right by many, but that is smug im sorry.

I do think that if you exclusively breastfed your baby and he/she was admitted to hospital for hypernatraemic dehydration for example, you might, even if just fleeting, feel as though you have done something wrong.

But it would be far worse to be told this has happened because you have not managed your breastfeeding properly by someone who has successfully breastfed.

Can you see that is why they get upset?
I really have to go now, thank you ALL for the information I have gained.

ledkr that is a horrible thing to say to someone. Pointless and spiteful IMO (the comment on the thread, not your comment btw).
I would put that on a par with the woman who was told by a friend that her BF was ewwwwwww disgusting.

But the facts are that the vast majority of BFs really do not mind what other people do and I really hate the sterotype of BFs as hippy dippy, judgemental, obesessed and middle class. That you have to be clever to BF doesnt make any sense either. If it is so instinctive and natural where does IQ come into it?

Can I just say, I FUCKING LOVE THESECONDCOMING!!!!

Keep it up, please tsc. This place is full of fucking cunts, I'm glad someone is saying it.

Ruby, babieseverywhere, lets not forget tittytittybangbang or whatever she is called now you all do breastfeeding a MASSIVE disservice with your wittering, smuggery and competitiveness.

It is so refreshing to have TSC on here. Thank you!

I think and hope you are in the majority,i am in the interesting position of having doen both bf and ff and when i bf i also was disinterested in other peoples choices-although half the special care babies had my surplus- Since having no choice but to ff my 2 dd's i have been horrified at the attitude of some to ff (see my previous posts re lack of info and experiences when in hospital with dd2) and the general lack of info for me to decide which ff and bottles to use and how to prepare them.
I find it hard to concieve that anyone would care so much about other peoples nourishment of their child so much as to constantly start this type of thread or comment on others.
There are many aspects of my parenting i think are correct and beneficial but i feel no desire to tell other people all the time or tell them that their way is harming their child.

I think we can get a bit of a skewed view of things from the internet TBH. I didnt even know about the whole FF V BF ruck until I joined NM and MN.

I was !

liggers i wanted to say that and forgot-re the few who give the others a bad name,they seem absolutely obsessed,i would love to know what they will do when they stop bf,what will they be smug about then.I wonder too if they all continue with faultless nutrition and healthy lifestyle cos ive seen some of them bf their 3yr olds in public and they look a bit grubby to me.

TSC and Liggers - agreed.

This is a tragic, awful, car crash of a thread.

The minute pictures of dying babies were shown, a line was crossed. All in the pursuit of being RIGHT.

There is some fantastic bf support on MN ..but sadly the bf that are shouting the loudest on this thread are not the ones I would recommend anyone asked for support, in fact I know exactly who to tell them to avoid

Ooh yes, I should mention I'm a serial namechanger! Am bugger all to do with TSC, if anynone cares I could list who I used to be.

^waves^ at foofy and liggers

Welcome to Mumsnet ladies. AIBU and Chat are the lowest form of entertainment discussion round here.

Get yourselves over to Culture Vultures or The Book Club for a more rarefied atmosphere.

will anyone judge my book choice tho?

cross posted with tweed someone just now.

just own up to who you are if you want to join the discourse - see my first post o this thread.

THAT was the other name I meant to add to the list. Foxytocin.

hi Foxy, although I've been aound about 8 months just namechanged and deregged once.

Just can't get my head around this. A troll just lit the blue touch paper and ran, and this is the result. It's astonishing.

Like ledkr I have done both exclusively (IYSWIM) and a mixture with my 3 DCs.
They're all still quite young though would have to say that the DC who was given a cocktail of breast milk and formula is shaping up to be quite a bright button!
I think this whole discussion is a bit of a nonsense.
What makes a child more intelligent is how much attention, encouragement and all that malarkey their parents give them, not how they choose to administer milk.
Unfortunately, from what I have seen around me in my local area, the majority of mums who breastfeed their babies are the ones who take notice of their children and the ones who are continually on their mobiles and just bark at their wee ones give them formula.
In my area, sad but true.
Talk to any HV and they will probably tell you the same.

Personally I have less issues with the op than with some of the dreadful posters on here.

TSC,Ledkr et al have made some fab points. Far too often the views expressed by ff(and most bf) are bullied off threads by an extremist scaremongering few. It blights many a thread and causes much damage.

I don't think it should tolerated.

It hasn't been on this thread, which can only be a positive imvho.

ledkr and ruby, you both give BF supporters a bad name and it is because of attitudes like yours that the awful phrase 'BF Nazis' was coined. You claim to be supportive, but in actual fact you are judgemental, smug and down right tedious.

No sure you mean ledkr there Northern...

'unfortunately, from what I have seen around me in my local area, the majority of mums who breastfeed their babies are the ones who take notice of their children and the ones who are continually on their mobiles and just bark at their wee ones give them formula'

Dear god ,theres some bollocks spouted on MN