to think that if you need to have a lie down on a flight you're a lazy fecker?

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FFS, a flight is only at max 12ish hours long.

Surely anyone could stay awake for that length of time?

What a great opportunity to catch up on reading, correspondence, or you certainly could be sociable and actually communicate with your fellow passengers.

Do something edifying, you sloths.

And sure Business Class has all those perks so that Very Important People can actually do business, not snore, snort, snuffle and snooze?

If all these large thrones chairs were removed I reckon the airlines could fit on loads more normal seats, thus extra passengers and some planet-saving could be achieved.

You clearly have no idea what business travellers have to do. My DH has to fly across the Atlantic, walk into a meeting at the top of his game, which generally means working on the flight, and then fly back overnight and walk into another meeting the next morning straight off the flight.

Yes, he does need to lie flat to get some sleep. YABVU

Sorry, should have said you are being way too judgemental about this, not that you are way too judgemental generally. Just read comment back and thought it could be misunderstood.

I'm going to states next month, am going to lie on the floor.

How do I get diazepam?

I am not allowed to sleep on planes. It's only because of my intense concentration that it stays up, did you know?

I agree beanlet my DH has to do the same. I wouldn't want to do what he does at all - a business or first class flight would be absolutely no compensation to me. I've never had to work like that and I can only imagine how hard it is.

hmmm - call me a lazy fecker if you will - but I find the need to lie down after all the champagne I've been quaffing in the upper class lounge before boarding.

They do massages & facials, haircuts and shoe cleaning there too if you can be bothered to drag yourself over. Sometimes I'm just too full as they have plied me with so much yummy food.

After all that - I'm sure you'll agree - how could anyone refuse the need for a nice steward/ess to make a comfy bed for a nice lie down. Gosh I feel tired just talking about it

It's gross sleeping on the floor of a plane - not clean at all.

Business class does allow you to sleep a bit but even so, jet lag's a problem . Flew to Melbourne last year from London and even though slept most of the way , took 2 days to feel like i wasn't tripping.

There would be no way i could function to do a job of work the day after landing - hats off to those that can.

Yes, the floor is a pit, that's why you take an old sheet.

'I'm going to states next month, am going to lie on the floor.

How do I get diazepam?'

You go to the GP and tell them you're doing the journey with your toddler from hell, whom they already know.

Low dose will do it.

It's not clean, no. But I can't afford business class.

I am a lazy fecker: am now off to have a lie down after one full day at work and before another full day at work. Just like one of those bods in business class. Realise that I should stay up 24/24 and be sociable instead, but dh just won't put up with me nattering at 3 o'clock in the morning. He's another lazy fecker.

Gawd, I get the nutter on the plane too! Last one was some crackers lady who asked me repeatedly to look at the bottom of her shoes, to see if they were dirty. WTF??!!

The v nice stewardess let me move seats in the end so I could have some peace we had more space...

No, sorry if I had the money to grab one of those bed seats in business or first, I would! Way out not a problem, but way back, give me the bed anytime - and I'm not even a business traveller!

Oh, god, I had this total bastard on a flight from Denver to London Gatwick once, which is a 9 hour flight about 11 years ago.

During dinner and after, he started to drone on and on about how horrid his ex-wife was. She didn't understand, his work, blah blah blah. Most of all, her drinking.

Finally, because I'd already swallowed an Ambien sleeping tablet on top of some wine and I was getting a connecting flight to Paris to meet my aunt upon landing, I told him, 'Have you ever thought that, probably, she drank because she had to live with you? Actually, I'm surprised she's still alive as I'm losing the will to live. If I had to live with you, I'd be on hardcore drugs, not just booze. You're a total narcissist and you need some serious psychiatric help. So for now, it's truly best if you leave me the fuck alone because I'm going to sleep. You bother me again, and I'm calling someone over to get you sorted out.'

Since then, I've never talked over civilities to any 'fellow passenger'.

I couldn't care less. Just get me where I paid to go.

FFS.

Chaos - do you get paid per wind up

Expat - you freakin' rock! Thats the kind of thing I wish I could say, but I'd end up tripping over my tongue.

Have a celebratory

He was a total fuckwit, and I had a window seat which meant I could use the wall as a pillow.

"I am not allowed to sleep on planes. It's only because of my intense concentration that it stays up, did you know?"

Marvellous. Of course. And if it weren't for your tight grip on the seat rests the wings would fall off.

You and me both.

Another time, another freak.

I was going to London from Kennedy, and this time on a real pilgrimage. I wanted to see the grave of the patron saint of the parish church where I grew up, Thomas More.

Despite having been a Lord Chancellor, and being raised to the peerage, his remains lie in the Chapel of St Peter ad Vinicula, in the Tower of London, under a stone that reads simply: 'Here lies a Londoner, of no nobyle famyle borne'. He is the first Londoner to become a Catholic saint, and is also a saint of the Anglican Communion.

I was going to Westminster Abbey, too, to the grave of Mary, Queen of Scots.

And then I planned to go to Canterbury, to see where Thomas a Becket, who is also a saint of the Anglican Communion, was martyred and thence to Fotheringhey Castle, to see where Mary Stewart met her end. I had a train pass and B&B bookings and was on the martyr beat!

So when the freak asked me if I planned to shag a British bloke, because he was free , I proceded to outline my plans and let him know I'd ask the martyrs to pray for his sad soul, for his conversion.

He moved seats quick :o

I hate it when people on the planes try and chat to me. Shut up and go to sleep why don't you. You can be sociable the whole of your life so why do it when you know the other person can't escape!

Business class = sleep paid for my company to make most of time in required country
we fly bc over 10 hrs; director wanted to stop it till he did one of our reg trips ( leave uk 2pm, fly 5 hrs, chnage planes fly another 5 hrs land 730am local time work all day till 8/9pm stay night next day work till 9 then head to airport for 3am flight fly 5 hrs land 7 am do it all again... You get the idea!!

Don't try and bed down on the floor, you will be told off straight away! The oxygen masks don't reach floor level so in the event if the masks dropping you wouldn't be able to reach one.

People sleeping on p,anes us fine.

People who get on and the second you are allowed to, throw their chair right into your lap are seriously fucking inconsiderate.

I was flying premium economy back from Barbados last year and the fucking twat in front of ds2 reclined his chair as fully as possible the second we took off. He then half sat up and shouted at his streak of piss of a friend for the entire flight. Well until I spilt tonic down his back.....