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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to spend my weekends how I choose?

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TobyLerone · 25/02/2011 13:20

I'll try and keep this short/not too ranty. I'll also try not to take offence if it turns out IABU. Here goes...

The facts:

I work full time.
I am a single parent.
I have a daughter (almost 10) and a son (11).
My children spend every other weekend with their father.
I have a boyfriend of almost a year who doesn't live with us, but with whom the children and I spend most of our free time. He loves my children and they love him.
I have a large family (3 younger-but-adult sisters, one of whom has 2 children [my nephew is 6 and my niece is 1]).

Soooo...

My sister (the one with children) is forever trying to get me to do things at the weekends. When the children are home (her children spend the same weekends with their father as mine do with theirs), I know there'll be a text asking me if I want to go swimming/if my children want to sleep over/if my daughter wants to go shopping with her/if we want to go to the park.

If I say no, because we already have plans, I will invariably get some kind of PA "[her son's name] will be very disappointed. He wanted to see his cousins" text. It will turn into some kind of snipey and increasingly passive-aggressive (from her side) text-fest. Sometimes she'll go so far as prefacing her invitations with "[her son's name] has had a really hard time at school this week and was wondering whether the kids would like to stay over" (or similar). Or she'll ask me in front of him if it's in person. Basically trying to guilt-trip me into it.

On the weekends the children aren't home, she'll invariably text me halfway through a Friday or Saturday afternoon, telling me there's going to be some kind of family dinner/outing to the pub/girls' night out/whatever. I usually make plans with my boyfriend (who also works very long hours) on weekends the children aren't home. These are things like going out to dinner or the cinema, or for a day's shopping, that we can't/don't want to do when the children are home. So we deliberately plan them in advance for when they're not.

When I say no, I already have plans, I get more PA texts, more guilt trips and plenty of snidey "you never do anything with us/you always have other plans" comments. I don't always say no. But friends of mine have noticed it, and know what she's like to the extent where if she texts me in their presence they'll say "Pretend you haven't read it yet!"

I'm not particularly anti-social, but I work all day. I leave the house at 8.30am for the school run, and get back home at 7pm after picking the children up from wherever they are after school. On the weekends the children are home, it's nice to spend them chilling out as a family, doing things together just the 3 or 4 of us. My son, although he is very patient with my nephew, is at an age where he can't help but find him a little irritating sometimes, so although he loves him dearly, he doesn't necessarily want to have a sleepover with him. I don't get to see as much of my children as I would like, and it's nice just to hang out together at weekends.

My sister is a SAHM and is always trying to get out of the house because she finds it difficult to entertain the children. I understand this, but it doesn't mean that I am the same. She is very sociable and likes to be surrounded by people at all times. I like to have peace and quiet sometimes, and to chill out at home because I am so rarely there. She really doesn't seem to understand how I can just enjoy spending a nice quiet weekend at home with the bf and the kids. I think it's her worst nightmare!

I love my sister (and my niece/nephew) very much, of course. My sister would help anyone and is the kind of person who says hello to people in the street because she once met them in a post office queue or a hospital ward. She's helped me out a lot in the past with childcare and the like. She definitely has her faults, which may be another post for another time! But she's lovely.

So, I guess what I'm asking is AIBU to be irritated by the constant PA guilt-tripping when I say no to her?

OP posts:
solooovely · 25/02/2011 14:51

Normally I would say that you shouldn't spend ALL of your spare time with your boyfriend, and you and your kids should spend time with other people including your sister and her kids.

The relationship is still pretty new for the kids to be spending ALL their time with you with him as well. They need time just with their mum without some bloke they've only know for a matter of months always there. (but admittedly that's a bit of a seperate issue).

As for your sister though, how often DO you see her? It's hard because it sounds like she needs you more then you need her but you need to have your own life. The horrible messages just isn't on, and the guilt tripping!

solooovely · 25/02/2011 14:55

Ok I've actually read more of your posts OP. It does sound like you try to fit her in sometimes but I would imagine it makes you not want to do it at all when she reacts so badly when you can't.

That would piss me off!

AgentZigzag · 25/02/2011 14:57

If she wants your DC to spend time with her DC, why don't you just take it as her offering to babysit for you?

Then you can spend time with your DP occasionally on your own.

TobyLerone · 25/02/2011 14:59

"Normally I would say that you shouldn't spend ALL of your spare time with your boyfriend, and you and your kids should spend time with other people including your sister and her kids.

The relationship is still pretty new for the kids to be spending ALL their time with you with him as well. They need time just with their mum without some bloke they've only know for a matter of months always there. (but admittedly that's a bit of a seperate issue)."

I did not say ALL of our spare time is spent with him. Not even close. He often plans other things for one day of the weekends the children are home. I can feel a tiny hint of judginess here. If I'd said he was my husband instead, it wouldn't have been queried.

But anyway, that aside, I have said several times that I see her at least once a week, not including weekends.

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TobyLerone · 25/02/2011 15:04

Ooooh, AgentZigzag! That's a whole new can of worms! See, because she does request them to have sleepovers at her house fairly regularly (and I send them most of the time, whether they want to go or not!), sometimes that leads to a whole different kind of passive aggressiveness involving her saying (in front of my nephew) "Auntie Kiki doesn't ever offer for you to come for a sleepover!" in a 'joking' way.

Yeah, I get it. Free babysitting is great. And I know there are loads of people who wish they had that. But the thing that gets me is that she says it in such a way that I should be grateful she's taking my children "off my hands" (because that's how she feels about her children). And therefore that I'm weird for not always wanting to take her up on it because she'd kill for someone to take hers off her hands for a while .

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solooovely · 25/02/2011 15:13

TobyLerone - Er, actually not judgy no, but am entitled to an opinion which is to think that your kids might like time alone with you without your shag of the week hanging about (see NOW I'm pissed off and NOW I sound judgy!)

My reaction wouldn NOT be different if he was your husband, because I would hope that you wouldn't have married some bloke you've only know a matter of months, as then you poor kids would be stuck with him as a stepdad without any of you knowing him well enough for him to be in that position. So the issue wouldn't have been whether or not you were married.

Of course you have now said that he actually DOESN'T spend all weekend, every weekend with you which isn't what you said in your original post. So one is either incorrect or you are changing it to make it sound better.

(ps. maybe your sister feels like she's been dumped for the boyfriend)

TobyLerone · 25/02/2011 15:16

"TobyLerone - Er, actually not judgy no, but am entitled to an opinion which is to think that your kids might like time alone with you without your shag of the week hanging about (see NOW I'm pissed off and NOW I sound judgy!)"

Yeah, you do. And tbh I really don't appreciate it. That's pretty offensive.

My OP says: "with whom the children and I spend most of our free time". That is not "all weekend, every weekend".

I'd really prefer not to bring the ins and outs of my relationship into this. And no, my sister does not feel like she's been dumped for the boyfriend. This is not a recent thing.

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Vallhala · 25/02/2011 15:16

YANBU. Good god, your sister's lifestyle sounds like my idea of hell! Give me yours and a bit of peace and quiet any day!

You have a right to do as you please and see who you please (including some bloke you've only known for a matter of months!! :o ) without anyone trying to guilt-trip you into behaving in the way they want you to.

Spidookly sums it up well. I'd be inclined to be very blunt and arsey so the best I can come up with that isn't quite as much so is that next time you say no and she moans you say "I do have a life of my own you know!".

And then punch a hole in the wall in frustration because she isn't taking it on board.

TobyLerone · 25/02/2011 15:19

I think you're right, Valhalla. More blunt and arsey might be required, because "I do have a life of my own, you know!" obviously isn't working Grin

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Vallhala · 25/02/2011 15:20

Solooovely, "your shag of the week"? Shock Hmm

That's extremely rude, uncalled for and offensive. It makes your username pretty ironic too.

solooovely · 25/02/2011 15:25

Well she started it! I was being nice!

TobyLerone · 25/02/2011 15:26

Wow. This is not a playground.

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solooovely · 25/02/2011 15:29

Well, you obviously have a chip on your shoulder about it otherwise you wouldn't have called me "judgey" for suggesting that you children might like some time alone with you. I mean seriously has it never occured to you that they might like that? Is that really something to take offence about?

Sparkletastic · 25/02/2011 15:34

stop being such a bully solooovely

OP - YANBU at all. As another wise poster stated, guilt trips do not make someone more attractive to spend time with, family member or otherwise.

TobyLerone · 25/02/2011 15:37

solooovely (Hmm) If you'd read the OP properly you'd have seen that I didn't say they didn't get any time alone with me. I'd have made that clearer in the OP (that 'most of our free time = a few evenings a week and maybe one full day at a weekend), only I was trying to keep it as short as possible.

I was deliberately careful of (and actually re-worded before I posted) what I said in that comment to say that I was feeling a tiny hint of judginess. Because I was, and you've proved now that that's what you were doing.

The offence taken was over you calling my relationship my "shag of the week". And rightly so. How dare you?

Now, I would prefer not to engage with you on the subject of my relationship any more. You have made your feelings clear, and you are indeed entitled to your own opinion.

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solooovely · 25/02/2011 15:39

How is that bullying? I mean seriously how is it as I don't understand?

The OP came on here for opinions, mine was that maybe he kids would like time with her alone (what a terrible thing to suggest!), she called me judgy which actually I find quite offensive and so I stuck up for myself. She obviously doesn't want MY opinion as she doesn't agree with it but since when has MN been about telling people that THEY can keep THEIR opinions to themselves but everyone else is free to give them?!

Personally I think I hit a nerve.

TobyLerone · 25/02/2011 15:44

Just to clarify, I do not think that solooovely is bullying me. God, if that's what I called bullying I'd have to GTFO the internet right now!

I do, however, think that solooovely is being rude and judgemental and making assumptions which are blatantly not true. Feel free to carry on with those if you like, solooovely (trust me, you did not hit any nerve), but I will not be talking to you any further about that particular part of the post.

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Sparkletastic · 25/02/2011 15:47

solooovely - the OP gave a comprehensive precis of the situation and then asked a direct question. You chose to focus on her love life (the 'shag of the week' comment was a particular low point - her 'tiny bit judgy' was very mild in comparison). You are answering a question which was not asked. You are of course entitled to post what you like and I am entitled to do the same. You seem to want a fight.

I want a Biscuit and a Wine

grumblinalong · 25/02/2011 15:49

'Shag of the week' is a pretty offensive way of describing someone's DP of a year solooovely. OP has a right to be pissed.

OP-my sister & my mum are overbearing too, they really put pressure on us to spend time with them when it's convenient for them (although it's not really me & DH they want to see more the DC's) but we sat down when DS2 was born and said we have to strike the balance of seeing extended family but having time for our immediate family unit of 4 (soon to be 5 as DC3 is due in June). W/E are our time with the DC's, (if there is a family birthday/party/meal we will go along but 90% of weekends are for us). This is because DH works full time, I work P/T and DS1 goes to his dad's one day of the week.

Everyone has the right to 'let go' of their extended family to an extent once you have DC's and/or partners, it's the natural order of things. If my DC's grow up to put their partners and children first I'll be proud of myself for raising independent adults who can let go of the apron strings and feel confident enough to raise their family there way. You & your DC's & partner have a right to a family life of your own.

TobyLerone · 25/02/2011 15:49

Please share the {biscuit] and Wine!

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TobyLerone · 25/02/2011 15:49

Cock it! Biscuit

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peeriebear · 25/02/2011 15:50

You find it quite offensive that the OP said, in good humour, you were being "a tiny bit" judgy- yet called her boyfriend the latest shag of the week and inferred that she shoehorns him into her DCs' lives?
FFS
you are a loon

Sparkletastic · 25/02/2011 15:51

Here we go Biscuit Wine

and to show we are well balanced let's have a Brew too...

TobyLerone · 25/02/2011 15:51

Thanks, grumblinalong. I don't want to make too big a deal of this with my sister, because I love that our family is so close. But it's a delicate balance, to be sure!

Also, congrats on the new baby :)

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grumblinalong · 25/02/2011 15:52

'raise their family their way' I meant.

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