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Evacuation from Libya

152 replies

sweetgilly · 24/02/2011 21:35

AIBU to expect those individuals who accept high tax free salaried positions in hostile environments, to then meet the costs of evacuation should the need arise. Why should the British tax payer meet the costs?

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VivaLeBeaver · 24/02/2011 23:54

I'm not saying its not bad - but its not a stonking great salary. "Stonking" conjures up figures of a couple of hundred thosand a year.

captainbarnacle · 24/02/2011 23:55

Not bad does not mean lucrative - it certainly does not pay for private jets or mercenaries for protect or anything like that. It's a reasonable salary for someone who works in very difficult conditions hundreds of miles from home - but it is no more than that.

scottishmummy · 24/02/2011 23:55

stonking salary isnt 38K.stonking implies few more £ooo

VivaLeBeaver · 24/02/2011 23:55

MilaMae - thats not what the Op said. The issue I have with you is the untrue information you are spouting as gospel about them not paying tax, etc.

MilaMae · 24/02/2011 23:56

Yes 38K isn't bad,probably a whole lot more than most of the sailors risking their lives today doing the rescue got(before they lost their jobs).

VivaLeBeaver · 24/02/2011 23:57

And how many of those sailors have a degree and a masters in electrical engineering and can fix a gas turbine so it'll work and oil can be pumped out the ground? People generally get paid what they're worth in a business/financial sense.

captainbarnacle · 24/02/2011 23:57

Workers to contribute what exactly before they go where? Libya was supposedly getting more stable. Egypt and Tunisa shocked the globe by falling to a very quick successful revolution. Nowhere is completely safe from war.

This is why people pay taxes when they are in the UK. This is why big businesses pay taxes to the UK govt. This is why we need some sort of defence budget, because the world can be a volatile place.

captainbarnacle · 24/02/2011 23:59

What is the point in the UK have a navy/defences if it's not to defend her people? If the world was a very safe place then we wouldn't need sailors or soldiers, would we, and there would be even more people out of a job....

MilaMae · 25/02/2011 00:00

So Viva you're saying as "gospel" that all/most of the workers we're seeing stranded pay tax? If so I stand corrected.

sweetgilly · 25/02/2011 00:01

VivaLeBeaver

Your last post is offensive. Please understand that alot of posters on here have loved ones fighting abroad.

I wonder how many of the servicemen / women sent in to rescue ytour precious hubby earn £38k per year.

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scottishmummy · 25/02/2011 00:02

mila if you haver a beef about navy&staff cuts take that and post it.but stop projecting onto an unrelated crisis

sweetgilly · 25/02/2011 00:03

People generally get paid what they're worth in a business/financial sense.

You tell that to the spouses of those killed in theatre. Unbelievable.

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captainbarnacle · 25/02/2011 00:04

Good grief. Viva's post was not offensive in the slightest, just a statement of fact.

MilaMae · 25/02/2011 00:04

No I think it is related.

In a time of extreme cuts I don't think the British taxpayer can afford to just send off warships willy nilly to rescue people in situations they put themselves in without any contribution.

scottishmummy · 25/02/2011 00:05

mila you are mixing up unrelated issues,and being harsh about people caught up in a real crisis

MilaMae · 25/02/2011 00:06

In your opinion Scottish,not mine.

scottishmummy · 25/02/2011 00:07

well you are extrapolating unrelated events and trying to draw a conclusion

VivaLeBeaver · 25/02/2011 00:07

Sweetgilly - my last post isn't offensive at all - its a fact of our profit driven society. I'm not saying its fair.

However society do pay people who have a unique or fairly unique skill to offer. Unfortunately armed forces are seen as unskilled cannon fodder and paid accordingly.

And I also have a relative who is "cannon fodder" in Afghanistan.

No service men/women were sent to rescue my DH as he's safely tucked up in bed.

MilaMae - I can ahrdly say as "gospel" that the people we've seen being rescued pay tax as I don't personally know them. However what I can tell you as "gospel" is that all the people I do know who are doing the same job as the ones still stuck in the desert do pay tax.

MilaMae · 25/02/2011 00:08

"unrelated" again being in your opinion,not mine.

VivaLeBeaver · 25/02/2011 00:09

MilaMae - well I hope you don't get any benefits, etc. What with our country not being able to afford them. Hmm

scottishmummy · 25/02/2011 00:10

yes mila given its a discursive subjective medium

now do you really want to play verbal tennis with
well that's only your opinion

VivaLeBeaver · 25/02/2011 00:10

I'm sure its good training exercise for the Navy. They were only a couple of days away, sailing about not up to much anyway.

MilaMae · 25/02/2011 00:11

The only one I get (CB) I'll be loosing,as I said before times are a changing.

Anyhow I too must go to bed.

scottishmummy · 25/02/2011 00:13

again you confuse your subjective situation with an immediate real life international crisis

GothAnneGeddes · 25/02/2011 03:35

I will go against the flow here and say YANBU.

Libyans are being killed left and right, yet the main story seems to be about the expats. Why? I'm sure it's not nice for them, but they chose to go there and yes, they chose to make money from a brutal regime.

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