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AIBU?

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Evacuation from Libya

152 replies

sweetgilly · 24/02/2011 21:35

AIBU to expect those individuals who accept high tax free salaried positions in hostile environments, to then meet the costs of evacuation should the need arise. Why should the British tax payer meet the costs?

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scottishmummy · 24/02/2011 23:28

insurance is invoked in certain circumstances.civil war isnt manageable,nor can an employer or insurance company easily hire safe transport and carriage out of a civil war.or call upon skilled staff to facilitate this safe transport

captainbarnacle · 24/02/2011 23:29

Nobody is talking about teachers or charity workers either but families enjoying a lucrative expat lifestyle

Who? Where?? What evidence do you have for this?

Niceguy2 · 24/02/2011 23:30

Milamae & Sweetgilly.

Answer me this question. Should protection which a govt provide have conditions attached?

sweetgilly · 24/02/2011 23:31

Add message | Report | Message poster captainbarnacle

It appears that your interpretation of having a reasonable argument is to resort to personal insults.

Anyway, i'm not prepared to have any further discussion with you as I do not want you to be late for school, tomorrow, lol.

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captainbarnacle · 24/02/2011 23:32

Heartless, ignorant and stupid wasn't aimed at anyone in particular, sweetpea :) Any argument against helping UK citizens in times of warfare is all the above. Please elaborate your argument so I can understand you a little clearer :)

NotSoPukeyMummy · 24/02/2011 23:33

OP, that's the first time in my life anyone has ever accused me of being a bully. I am anything but that. IRL, in case you are still wondering (like) you've made me cry and now I can't sleep, so thank you for that. Well done, you've made a pregnant woman cry, very witty.

May I suggest most respectfully that if you start a contentious thread on a political subject you should be prepared for some robust responses, some of which may be from people who don't agree with you.

I was merely pointing out, albeit tactlessly, the existence of a very recent and very similar thread.

I shall not be troubling your thread again.

Niceguy2 · 24/02/2011 23:33

Actually I didnt think Captain was insulting. I thought he was just being observant.

captainbarnacle · 24/02/2011 23:34

If I wanted a lucrative expat lifestyle I would hardly have chosen to go to Libya under a mad dictator in the middle of an undeveloped desert... I think you are confusing Libya with Dubai.

MilaMae · 24/02/2011 23:34

Times are a changing, our Nimrods have gone,our ships are dwindling, we have to hope America will use their planes to help us to locate people in the desert.Maybe throwing money at huge rescue missions like this without help won't be an option for much longer anyhow.

sweetgilly · 24/02/2011 23:39

NotSoPukeyMummy

Yawn

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MilaMae · 24/02/2011 23:41

Right Captain so they go for the weather Hmm

sweetgilly · 24/02/2011 23:41

Niceguy2 Thu 24-Feb-11 23:33:30
Actually I didnt think Captain was insulting. I thought he was just being observant.

Really. Well thanks for that contribution.

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captainbarnacle · 24/02/2011 23:43

No Mila. They go for the money.

OH works thousands of miles away - not the the M East. He spends days at a time in the middle of nowhere, uncontactable, in dangerous parts of the world.

He does not live a lucrative lifestyle. I look after the family for 11 months a year on my own in a rented house.

You are ignorant of the lifestyles of these workers and are guilty of making ridiculous assumptions.

VivaLeBeaver · 24/02/2011 23:44

Some people are so silly and so ill informed.

I hardly think ringing up More Than travel insurance is going to help in such a situation.

The liklihood is they will be paying tax. My DH has had to go to Libya for a couple of months a few years ago - was still very much paying tax.

Working out there doesn't mean a high salary - my DH didn't get paid anymore than his hourly rate over here. Yes he worked more hours when there but the rate was the same even though he was stuck in a camp in the desert.

If people like my DH and others didn't go and do necessary work you wouldn't have any petrol. How silly of them to go and do a vital job that benefits you.

I do wish people wouldn't start an AIBU about stuff they blatently know nothing about. How daft.

MilaMae · 24/02/2011 23:45

Yes tax free money Captain so they're more than capable of contributing to the possibility of their own rescue.

Maryz · 24/02/2011 23:47

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captainbarnacle · 24/02/2011 23:47

The problem is not the contributing - where have any workers complained about the cost of getting out? They need national government assistance because that is help you cannot buy. BP paid for a charter flight. I am sure the other companies either contribute in tax or will help pay for any assistance. But they need government help NOW!

Maryz · 24/02/2011 23:48

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VivaLeBeaver · 24/02/2011 23:50

"We're not talking about vulnerable refugees but people enjoying stonking great salaries with a lot of money at their disposal "

Is 38k a year a stonking great salary? Thats what my DH earns (before tax) doing a job where he goes to Libya working for the oil companies. Oh well, I can rest easy in the knowledge that if he was caught up in such a conflict then he could afford to ring his private jet to go and pick him up. We have so much money at our disposal. Hmm

MilaMae · 24/02/2011 23:50

Captain nobody is saying don't help them now.

scottishmummy · 24/02/2011 23:51

lets be clear here the situation is volatile and a charter flight and some just in case insurance wouldn't do the job.

govt have logistics,and ability to commandeer,command and safely get uk citizen home in crisis.this is a crisis

captainbarnacle · 24/02/2011 23:52

Then I am at an utter loss as to what you think you are talking about :)

VivaLeBeaver · 24/02/2011 23:52

"Yes tax free money "

I repeat again - the chances are they are paying tax. The majority of them will work for a British company, be based here and go out there for periods of a few weeks/couple of months. Then be back here for a while before going back. Thats what everyone I know who works out there in the desert camps does. They all pay NI and income tax.

Milamae - do you know many people who work out there what you being so informed? Hmm

sweetgilly · 24/02/2011 23:52

Is 38k a year a stonking great salary?

Erm...it's not bad.

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MilaMae · 24/02/2011 23:53

Why don't you re-read the threadSmile

We're talking about in the future expecting workers to contribute before they go.