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to think that this country is a total farce!

278 replies

mamaLou13 · 22/02/2011 15:03

i just think the sooner my family get out of this country the better. Its ridiculous. Human rights has gone mad . The prison system is ludicrous! The immigration laws are a joke. Britain has lost almost all the values we used to stand for. Where i live british people are a minority/ stranger in our own country its unbelieveable that it has got to this point. The 'democracy' we live in is far to leanient. I am disgusted that we allow such things as the burkha here i believe that like france, Britain should ban it. So much money is being spent to enable life to be better for those who come here and claim our benefits, translators etc and running the NHS into the ground.... aibu to wonder WHAT ABOUT US BRITS????

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BaroqueAroundTheClock · 22/02/2011 23:36

you still haven't told me which cultures "spit" as a matter of course and don't realise it's rude??

Why do you single out the "foreign cultures" who do this - when there is an equally (actually I'd say more) strong thing for spitting in our own British cutlure??

Thingumy · 22/02/2011 23:36

and

'Ok, Brits do this too but they're just scrote who should know better'

Hmm
BaroqueAroundTheClock · 22/02/2011 23:39

thankfully don't get too much of the snotting round here - but I do frequently go out on a Saturday and Sunday morning to find spit and vomit on the pavement from where the drunken British (at least they shout speak with a very local accent as they stagger past drunkenly on their way hom ein the middle of the night) twats have stumbled their way up my street.

EdwardorEricCantdecide · 22/02/2011 23:39

Country is going nuts but not for any of the reasons above. Most immigrants coming to this country v. Successfully find work and many contribute more than some Brits do!
That said the problems in this country are down to our politicians lack of touch with reality and "average Joe" of this country where they think it's appropriate to take money from the poor to give to the rich!!!!!!

Have my 1st Biscuit

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 22/02/2011 23:39

and how do you know they are foreign??????

slightlymad72 · 22/02/2011 23:42

Baroque thats what I wanted to know and my question hasn't been answered yet. How, by looking at or listening to someone, can you tell they are foreigners?

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 22/02/2011 23:47

well indeed - as even listening to them in a foreign language means nothing. My 2 nieces are both British born, and when speaking English speak with a verrry porrrsh accent.......however their parents aren't English by birth (but have recently got their British naturalisation and passports) and the 2 girls are bi-lingual. So at home and out and about with their parents speak in their mother tongue - with all the relevant accents.

I am British born and bred , exH is foreign - when we first married people frequently thought that I was the foreign one, and he the British one (English is his 2nd language - although again like his sister bi-lingual) because I pick up accents easily - so 2 1/2yrs living in his home country before we married meant I spoke with a pretty strong accent (still slip into it occasionaly Grin). He speaks with very "Queens English" accent. They thought that I Had kept my maiden name and I was foreign and he was British Hmm

CityGirls · 22/02/2011 23:54

You'd be really blind not to see that some people are clearly from a foreign upbringing. Not all, i agree but a large number you can identify. Yes, they could all be British citizens now but again you are misunderstanding my point. Behaviours/norms learnt while growning up differ in all cultures and we each have behaviours that nark each other. I agree I can't find new citizens who have come from a country where alcohol is forbidden liking our binge drinking culture. Knowing their taxes are going to policing the streets for drunken louts.
Also, I never said british people don't also spit, if you read back through my post I said they piss me off too.

CityGirls · 22/02/2011 23:55

..(excuse spelling mistakes, typing too fast)

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 22/02/2011 23:56

so if British people also spit - what on earth did you need to make a specific reference to foreigners for???

"clearly from a foreign upbringing" WTF????????????

jenga079 · 23/02/2011 00:01

Has the OP gone? Did she get on a (spit free) bus to Australia? Good good, so long as she's happy.

CityGirls · 23/02/2011 00:14

Because the point was that I live in a highly immigrant populated area and told the OP that I disagreed with him/her because I find the multi cultured society brings it's own benefits however I had noticed ( at my highly immigrant populated bus stop and on my own street) that there were a percentage of people who I have noticed spitting and that they did so with ease. Clearly something they feel comfortable with as it's the norm to them. ONCE AGAIN I reiterate that all cultures have norms that others may not find attractive.

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 23/02/2011 00:20

But it's got fuck all to do with them being foreign I can assure you - and as you've agreed on the thread Britsh yobs spit too.

CityGirls · 23/02/2011 00:23

Clearly not just me who has noticed the spitting !

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7225660.stm

CityGirls · 23/02/2011 00:30

I disagree, I think that in some cultures spitting is the norm. It's just because as Brits, apart from the yobs, we don't see an awful lot of it so when we do it turns our stomach.

CityGirls · 23/02/2011 00:32

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7225660.stm

Sorry,earlier link didn't work

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 23/02/2011 00:42

but which cultures - you're still failing to tell me?

Morloth · 23/02/2011 00:47

Oh Hell No don't move to Australia!

We have human rights and fairly lenient prisons and foreigners who insist on eating their funny food as well! You wouldn't like it here there are spiders and snakes and bushfires and cyclones (desperately tries to think of things that will scare off crazy OP) all sorts of things.

Very dangerous place, perhaps try Saudi? Sounds like you would fit right in, apart from the Burkha bit.

CityGirls · 23/02/2011 00:51

See the link.

CityGirls · 23/02/2011 00:58

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7225660.stm

In order for it to be included into the pack it has been widely recognised as a problem.

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 23/02/2011 01:00

ermm the link doesn't say which cultures

"Don't drink and drive
Don't drop litter
Put bins out for collection on the correct day
Make sure children attend school
Get a licence before you go fishing
Don't touch people without their permission
Respect the law
Avoid spitting in the street
Don't play music loudly"

apply to.....

CityGirls · 23/02/2011 01:18

All I can say is that on the last few occasions I have witnessed it, it has been from one particular group. I will not, and don't have to name this particular group because as we have established, just as all Brits don't spit, not all of this culture will spit either. However, in my opinion , one I am allowed to have, believe spitting to be a normal behaviour to them.

BaroqueAroundTheClock · 23/02/2011 01:21

so.............by that notion because the only people I see spitting in the street around me are white British yobs people I can assume that it is normal behaviour for all British people to spit on the floor in front of me???????

CityGirls · 23/02/2011 01:39

No, that is not what I said. I live in an area highly populated with immigrants from many countries and it is mainly one particular group from who I have witnessed incidents. Not just me, friends have also noticed a high incidence of it too. They seem at ease and comfortable when they spit in public. Which is fine, it is something they are used to. I however am not.
There will always be cultures that don't agree with behaviours of others simply because it is not the norm to them. For instance, if I was to go on public drinking binge in a muslim community I don't think they would find it appropriate. To me however, drinking in public is the norm. However, I recognise that this would be inappropriate and that is what people have to learn ...what is and isn't appropriate behaviour for the situation/place they're in. This applies to everyone which was the opening line of my original post - Respect and manners.

ivykaty44 · 23/02/2011 07:48

foreigners put the great in Britain,

Let see how many of English Kings where actually foreigners well there be this King for starter