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to l like Ratamouse?

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lospollos · 14/02/2011 14:13

I think its adorable and sweet,

was watching the wright stuff today and people from west indies background, had no objection to it. and lest we forget its a mouse! not a person

back in the day El Nombre was far more gimmicky but no one had an issue with that, I think its actually the best thing on ther atm, that is all :)

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amberleaf · 14/02/2011 19:29

Im not talking about posting about it on here im talking about harping on about something you know fuck all about other than what you've just googled.

It is not a religion it is a movement...a way of life, a way of thinking an ideology

But you're the expert right?

ThePosieParker · 14/02/2011 19:34

Actually I haven't just googled it, I lived with a Rastafarian at Uni. Some Rastas believe it's an ideology, a movement or an ideology and some believe it's a religion. As Rastas believe they descend from Enoch the Ethiopian and that they predate Judaism I find it hard to think of it as anything other than a religion.

ThePosieParker · 14/02/2011 19:37

movement or an ideology...should have read 'movement or a way of life'. Pretty sure on a form when asked what their religion is they would tick the Rastafarian box.

amberleaf · 14/02/2011 19:38

Wow and you remember all of these little titbits you're rattling off just from 'living with Rastafarian at uni'

ThePosieParker · 14/02/2011 19:39

I studied Theology and smoked copious amounts of weed, I had quite an interest.

ThePosieParker · 14/02/2011 19:40

(I only lived with him for three months too, he was shagging my house mate.....I have a good memory)

amberleaf · 14/02/2011 19:45

Aah that would make you the expert then.

claig · 14/02/2011 19:56

Wow, this is new to me. Does anyone know when Rastafarianism started and who started it?

Ben10isthespawnofthedevil · 14/02/2011 20:03

www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/rastafari/ataglance/glance.shtml

tralalala · 14/02/2011 20:05

posie -jesus you really know nothing.

thefirstMrsDeVere · 14/02/2011 20:07

My DB joined the Police in the 80s. I distinctly remember him coming home one evening and telling us that he had been learning about Rastas that day.

Apparently their aim in life was to enslave all white women and kill all white men

I am not an expert on Rastas but I do know that having locs and smoking weed does not make you a true 'rightious' (sp) rasta.

Loads of blokes locs their hair because they know it attracts women, dont make them rastafari though.

claig · 14/02/2011 20:15

Thanks for the link. Didn't know that it originated from the ideas of Marcus Garvey. I doubt that he believed it, I guess it must have been someone else who took his thoughts and modified them. Will start looking into Marcus Garvey's ideas.

claig · 14/02/2011 20:22

Ah ok, Marcus Garvey was a black nationalist, but he didn't appear to believe in Rastafarianism, even though many Rastas consider himn a prophet.

"Marcus Garvey promoted Black Nationalism, black separatism, and Pan-Africanism: the belief that all black people of the world should join in brotherhood and work to decolonise the continent of Africa ? then still controlled by the white colonialist powers.

He promoted his cause of black pride throughout the 1920s and 1930s, and was particularly successful and influential among lower-class blacks in Jamaica and in rural communities. Although his ideas have been hugely influential in the development of Rastafari culture, Garvey never identified himself with the movement, and even wrote an article critical of Haile Selassie for leaving Ethiopia at the time of the Fascist occupation.[45] In addition, his Universal Negro Improvement Association disagreed with Leonard Howell over Howell's teaching that Haile Selassie was the Messiah.[45]"

gwenner · 14/02/2011 20:44

In Episode one, they devise a cunning plan to determine who has chosen all "da cheese"....

Excellent. My 4 and 2 yr old think it's great, nearly as much as they enjoy Mr Ben.

And what a splendid thread, I'm not sure whether some people are trolling intentionally or not, but it's brightened up my night no end!

pinata · 14/02/2011 21:41

rastamouse is brilliant

becklesparkle · 14/02/2011 21:51

It's a fab show, I love it, DH loves it, the DCs (10,8 & 3) love it, 2 SILS and DBs love it (despite having no DCs of their own). Its so funny and puts across a lovely message "Making a bad ting good"

I agree with everyone who says a 10 minute programme is not going to change the way your child speaks. I am loving the little bits of patois my LOs are coming out with at the moment, very cute from 3yo DD

Also, DH's father was from the Scottish Isles and very difficult to understand and yet DH speaks with a Suffolk accent. DS2's teacher has a Northern accent but he doesn't come home sounding like anyone but himself either.

ThePoseyParker, the reason they use dialect in the programme is because dialect was used in the books, it was the writers of the books also who called the main character 'Rastamouse' as opposed to Jamaican Mouse or Pakistani Mouse as you suggested. The Crucial Plan episode is actually very close to the book so I would imagine they've kept the show as close to the original books as they could.

Also, I don't think either Rastafarianism or any other religion has been mentioned at all in any of the episodes I've watched. I think you should watch the programme a bit more before you diss it.

HerculesPoirot · 14/02/2011 22:02

Rastamouse is GENIUS! My 14 mo DD dances and claps her hands when the Easy Crew are playing their music, and as an adult it is easily one of the more interesting programmes for me to watch.

I also teach as a secondary school teacher and can confirm that Rastamouse is taking the world by storm - my Year 10 class (14/15 year old boys) all LOVE it!

jamfran · 14/02/2011 22:24

'to I like Ratamouse'. says it all.

theyoungvisiter · 14/02/2011 22:30

OH MY GOD! TYPO ON THE INTERNET! IT MUST BE ALL THE FAULT OF THE BBC POISONING THE SACRED WELL OF PURE ENGLISH WITH THEIR FILTH!!!!

Fgs get off your high horse jamfran. Never made a typo in a post? Good for you - have a gold star and give yourself a pat on the back, you must be so relieved.

As for "says it all". Says what, precisely?

hairymelons · 14/02/2011 22:44

Me and DH loved the books & love the show. 2 1/2 yo DS- not bovved unfortunately. He is obsessed with peppa pig so we don't get to see it much.

tyv- either it demonstrates the destructive and pernicious influence of Rastamouse OR that you must be thick to like it. Or summink.

cerealqueen · 14/02/2011 22:50

What about Piggley Winks, that was certainly dialect. Lots of positive role models of the Irish. I wouldn't have got up in the arms about an Irish mouse. (being Irish)

angels3 · 14/02/2011 23:01

Well, my kids love Rastamouse - we live in rural wales, and we don't have any 'West Indians' in a 100 miles of us, never mind anyone speaking patois - but my kids love it, they completely understand every word that is spoken and, and no funnily enough they have not decided to try and speak like Rastamouse, in the same way as they do not copy the accents in Tinga Tinga Tales (which is my personal fave) or copy Pingu or even make stupid snorting sounds as per Peppa Pig!

Perhaps we should give our children more credit that that?

Pan · 14/02/2011 23:24

Ire!

Easy Crew is fab me thinks, man.

Munaka · 14/02/2011 23:33

Pan, Lospollos just needs to make a bad ting good, come back and accept she is BU

Munaka · 14/02/2011 23:34

I need to make a bad ting good!

(sorry Lospollos!)

Posie need to make a bad ting good.

G'wan Posie. I got some nice cheese pie for you if you do?

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