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To wish that incompetent car drivers should stick to public transport?

126 replies

CockularDepravity · 09/02/2011 22:15

Having nearly been involved in an accident this morning due to the woman driver indicating one way and then turning the other, AIBU to suggest that some people should simply not be allowed to drive?

The overly timid and indecisive drivers are almost as bad as the loons who drive everywhere at 100 miles an hour. People on mobiles, applying eyeliner, smoking cigarettes, eating food ... the list of idiocy I see goes on and on.

AIBU to think that many drivers should be limited to public transport until they learn to drive adequately?

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MrsTumbles · 10/02/2011 10:26

Highway code rule 264:
You should always drive in the left-hand lane when the road ahead is clear. If you are overtaking a number of slower-moving vehicles, you should return to the left-hand lane as soon as you are safely past. Slow-moving or speed-restricted vehicles should always remain in the left-hand lane of the carriageway unless overtaking.

Simples

Finger · 10/02/2011 10:27

Highway code rule 264

You should always drive in the left-hand lane when the road ahead is clear. If you are overtaking a number of slower-moving vehicles, you should return to the left-hand lane as soon as you are safely past. Slow-moving or speed-restricted vehicles should always remain in the left-hand lane of the carriageway unless overtaking. You MUST NOT drive on the hard shoulder except in an emergency or if directed to do so by the police, HA traffic officers in uniform or by signs.

Finger · 10/02/2011 10:27

Awesome MrsTumbles!

MrsTumbles · 10/02/2011 10:31

Haha, great minds hey finger

BlingLoving · 10/02/2011 10:31

Why is it considered dangerous to move between lanes? I consider it good driving. I move over to the far left as much as possible, when I need to overtake, I check that there is no one in the middle lane, then pull over and do so. If I am in the middle lane and can see that there is someone coming up quickly behind me, I look to the left lane to see what is there. If there is space and time, I will then pull over to give the car behind time to overtake then return to the middle lane to continue overtaking whoever I was trying to pass on the left.

I have never understood this idea that lane changing is difficult, dangerous or scary.

BlingLoving · 10/02/2011 10:32

But my all time pet hate, is people who are too scared to drive on the left in single lane roads in case they hit a car parked, or the pavement or whatever. The result is that a two way road inevitably becomes one way and blocked as all the nervous drivers swerve way over the middle line in order to keep two metres distance between their passenger door and the car parked on the side of the road!

OTheHugeManatee · 10/02/2011 10:35

Can I add pairs of speed-limited trucks engaged in Truck Wars on a busy motorway. ie one of them is limited to 55mph, and the other to 56mph, so the fractionally faster one spends 15 mins overtaking the fractionally slower one while the traffic builds up behind them?

Merlion · 10/02/2011 10:35

Please come and drive here in Singapore for an hour and I guarantee you will think the British the most considerate road users ever.

  • no indicating (whether turning or lane changing)
  • stopping to pick up/put down just before or after junctions on blind bends, crest of a hill anywhere that is either blatantly dangerous or inconvenient
  • cutting in
  • lane changing just because the other lane looks marginally quicker (guaranteed not to be)

Don't get me started on taxi drivers who don't know how to use gears and always take corners in 4th.

Oh and flashing your lights at someone means I'm coming through - not please go ahead.

I could go on but coming back to the UK and driving is a relief and generally pleasant experience.

Dizzy no-one pulls over for emergency vehicles. I took DS for a trip to the fire station and actually asked one of the firemen about this - his response well the mentality is just different here Hmm Shock

Finger · 10/02/2011 10:49

From Highway code rule 163

  • stay in your lane if traffic is moving slowly in queues. If the queue on your right is moving more slowly than you are, you may pass on the left

So you can pass on the left if there's someone (a queue) in the outside lane moving slower than you are.

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MrsTumbles · 10/02/2011 11:03

bringinghomethebacon I think it's the British way to think we all have to queue politely! A driving instructor instructor (not a typo, someone who trained people to be driving instructors!) told me that you should use the space given to merge, which doesn't mean instantly getting in the new lane, and similarly doesn't mean rushing right to the last point and cutting someone up, just use the warning distance to merge safely with the flowing traffic.

BusyMissIzzy · 10/02/2011 11:03

Yes, bringinghome, ideally everyone would use both lanes and merge at the last minute. TBH I've never really seen it cause a 'queue' (maybe I'm lucky to not have to drive at rush hour though), the traffic just moves over, but some people race to the front and push in. That's what annoys me. The ones who actually force their way in rather than signalling and waiting for someone to let them in.

scurryfunge · 10/02/2011 11:06

If you all merge in turn when traffic begins to slow (usually at the point that the lane closure is advertised, it wouldn't be a problem. Those who can't be bothered to merge in turn and pass the slower moving traffic are queue jumping and also the cause of stopping and congestion when they try to force their way through at the top of the queue and people have to break to avoid a collision.

octopusinabox · 10/02/2011 11:25

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LittleMissHissyFit · 10/02/2011 11:59

See the driving in Egypt and you will never moan again.

There are 3 lanes marked on the road, yet 5 lanes of vehicles. Yes cars drive to fill in the gap between the lanes. the record I saw was quadruple parking and 6 lines of gridlocked traffic across 5 road lanes. 10 into 5...

Give way? Pah.
Traffic Lights? Guffaw!
No U Turn? Oh that doesn't refer to ME, its U!
Oh roundabouts, the scariest experience ever. YOU give way to those coming ON to the roundabout, it is terrifying, you feel attacked on all sides! Oh they don't necessarily go the right way all the time either.

Drivers will not look at pedestrians/fellow road users. They will wear dark/mirrored glasses all year round too ideally, to prevent eye contact.

Reason being, if you are on a side street, or about to cross the road, you will NOT venture out in front of a car where you don't think the driver has seen you. It bloody works!

Took me over a year to be able to cross a road on my own. I used to get people from 'H' Office to come and collect me, and escort me over the one way, 3 lane road in front of our building.

Pedestrian crossings, I think, are painted there to give homicidal drivers a target to aim for.

A driver in Egypt is liable to take any course of action, usually at speed, that they feel like, no indication, no clue from road position. Think sharp slew across 4 lanes to make an exit at a moment's notice, cutting 10 cars up.

They have no realistic control over their cars, an emergency stop is usually effected by crashing into something. 'H' was considering putting a tow bar on his car to take the impact of anyone ploughing into him rather than have to try and track down a 1967 chrome bumper again.

Ambulances are totally ignored at all times. they have lights on and sirens blaring. When they really need to get through, they have a recorded announcement to state Medical Emergency, please clear a path. I found that the saddest thing, the most needlessly idiotic.

BlingLoving · 10/02/2011 12:12

LittleMissHissyFit - aaah, Egypt. Memories...

I was in a taxi once on a mountain pass. We zoomed up at the speed of light alongside another taxi, travelling equally fast. Then we slowed so we were driving next to each other (clearly my guy was in the lane of oncoming traffic). Then my guy shouted something out the window. The guy in the car next to him, tossed him a lighter. My guy lit his cigarette, tossed the lighter back and we zoomed off.

I think I lost a couple of years off my life at that point!

Wine
oneofthosedays · 10/02/2011 14:10

The one thing I have notice a huge increase in lately is people running red lights. I've been known to nip through and amber but the amount of people I see running red lights has significantly increased. I find I see at least 2 cars per day running red lights, sometimes I see 2 and 3 cars going through on red - it's completely unbelievable!!

oneofthosedays · 10/02/2011 14:10

on amber that should be!

GotArt · 10/02/2011 16:39

Rustybear What happened was I was pulling out, right, she drove past, I looked left to double check traffic, then pulled out, she had come a sudden stop as I pulled out in first gear. Everyone involved, including the pedestrian that was standing in the bushes wanting to cross, is the blame of this whole situation. The man wanting to cross somewhere he shouldn't be, the woman for stopping in a non stopping area and my not checking a hundred times before pulling out. The woman herself had the faint smell of pot coming off her, which is not uncommon really where I live and she admitted that she had been in many accidents similar with people that jumped down her throat. I'm six months pregnant and had a toddler in the back and have never, in the 20 years of driving, ever had an accident or even a parking ticket. I'm not taking full responsibility for this one. Pedestrians not crossing at cross walks cause many accidents like this one, my adjuster cited two she had already dealt with that day of similar circumstances.

I've just heard as well that in BC, there will now be an "M" sticker, like the "L" and "N" stickers for learner and new drivers. The M stands for mature and will be issued to drivers over 65 years of age because the stats clearly show they cause 80% more accidents than the other two combined. They will also have to re-take their drivers license every 3-5 years, depending on health and medication; many are on medication apparently that clearly state not to operate heavy machinery, which a vehicle is.

GotArt · 10/02/2011 16:41

I meant to add with the toddler in the back I was not going to argue a fender a bender where no one was hurt. Insurance covers all.

dizzyblonde · 11/02/2011 12:38

If you are on a dual carriageway that is queueing and an emergency vehicle is trying to get through, the left hand lane moves as far to the left as possible and the right hand lane as far to the right so that we can go up the middle. We call it 'parting the red sea'.

QueenStromba · 11/02/2011 17:17

My biggest driving peeve at the moment is people in dark coloured cars who don't put their lights on when it's raining. They obviously never use their mirrors because if they did they would realise that when it's raining dark coloured cars can be almost invisible in your mirrors if they don't have their lights on. You can just about see them but it's difficult to tell how far away they are and how fast they're going which is particularly important when you are about to turn off a 40mph dual carriageway at a T junction that's a bit hidden which is at a point where a bus lane turns into a normal lane and people might assume that you are indicating to move into that lane. I've had to go around the long way a few times when I had some idiot up my arse to the extent that I was afraid to brake even gently because if he wasn't paying complete attention he'd probably go into the back of me so it is really important to be able to judge how far away someone is (I'd expect that someone who hasn't thought of putting their lights on in the rain probably isn't paying too much attention to what they're doing).

The Asda near me has an upper and lower level to the car park. Cars coming from the lower level come out first and then cars from the upper level join to make a Y shape. It's such a blind junction that it has one of those convex mirrors so that people coming from the top car park can see if there's anyone coming from the bottom one. I was coming from the top car park one day in December at about 4pm in the rain so not only was visibility reduced because of the rain but it was also almost dark. I had my lights on and was creeping out of that junction because it looked clear but I knew if there was a dark car coming with it's lights off there would be no way I'd see it. Sure enough, if I hadn't have been going so slowly I'd have hit an idiot in a dark grey car with no lights on and her young kids in the back. And she had the nerve to look at me like I was the idiot! She was bloody lucky it was me coming out because I think a lot of people would have assumed it was clear and gone for it.

agedknees · 11/02/2011 17:49

Was at traffic lights today waiting for the right turn green arrow. Ahead was on green light, but cars still going on the opposite side of the road.

Car behind me saw the green light and kept pressing on his horn. Don't think he could understand the complexities of the junction.

Got impatient with waiting behind me and went around me and then nearly got smashed to pieces by the cars that where still driving on the opposite side of the road (because they still had a green light).

Absolute nutter.