To wish that incompetent car drivers should stick to public transport?

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Having nearly been involved in an accident this morning due to the woman driver indicating one way and then turning the other, AIBU to suggest that some people should simply not be allowed to drive?

The overly timid and indecisive drivers are almost as bad as the loons who drive everywhere at 100 miles an hour. People on mobiles, applying eyeliner, smoking cigarettes, eating food ... the list of idiocy I see goes on and on.

AIBU to think that many drivers should be limited to public transport until they learn to drive adequately?

Sorry, missed subsequent posting and also got the name wrong

I'm back on the road this week after several months on the buses. It's lovely to be driving again esp as I'm 6mths PG so the after work dash/sprint to pick DD up from CM is now an easy job.

BUT - as soon as I got back on the road, yes I was reminded of just how many muppets are let loose out there, driving how they please with scant regard for other road users of rules of the road. I'll add cyclists in with the cars - lots where I am and a third of them are very badly behaved.

No angry though - I keep my cool, but I am amazed on a daily basis at the road behaviour of others.

if the inside lane is empty I definitely go in there

That's good to hear, as some stick there whatever the state of the inside lane.

I used to wonder if they made up some rule in their heads about up to 70mph = inside lane, 70 or more = middle lane and then stick to it whatever the road conditions.

I think you mean zebra as well but the different crossing types are explained here www.2pass.co.uk/crossing.htm. Hands up who'd heard of a pegasus crossing before (must have missed that bit on highway code).

People who drive everywhere at 40mph. In 30 zones, in 20 zones and in 60 zones.

I always feel it's almost as if they don't look at the signs....

I can't bear impatient people who have no tolerance for other road users and think that their need to get where they're going as fast as possible overrides everyone else's safety and comfort.

oops also missed your post acknowledging this :(

Yes, I can understand cruising along in the middle lane if there is slower traffic on the inside lane, it's when drivers just stay in the middle lane when the inside lane is clear for as far as the eye can see that makes me . And sometimes they're not even doing 70mph. Why??

Bad drivers are dangerous, but in London the angry, impatient drivers are almost as bad. Weaving in and out of lanes, pushing in front of other cars rather than waiting in a queue. Maybe it's cos I learnt to drive in a different part of the country, but everyone drives so agressively here.

(Ok, not everyone, but a lot of people).

Not an excuse but driving in lane 1 is pretty crap -it is usually rutted and uneven from the lorries.

You are supposed to merge like a zip when advised to do so, not overtake everyone who is merging one by one!

Merging (mergeing?) is fine IMO, but blatantly jumping the queue and pushing in is not.

Audi Rep-mobile drivers who drive right up your trumpet, flashing and tooting, and then rocket off only to have to pull up at the next roundabout. Tossers. They're also the ones who try and bully their way out of side roads into the space I happen to be occupying at the time.

ALL Ford Galaxy driving minicabs in London. Especially when they decide to do an 18 point turn to go back the other way, in the middle of rush hour traffic on the Holloway Rd.

Old people who do 40mph everywhere, regardless of the speed limit.

Yes, I'd say I'm a fairly aggressive driver (in London, at least - I take my shouty hat off when I'm in the country, as people are much nicer there). But IMO signalling clearly, moving off quickly and being decisive is infinitely less annoying than dithering, blundering and creeping along across two lanes with random indicators going.

Oh yes, I'd forgotten people who try to jump the queue when traffic is merging. They tend to be driving brand new BMW X3s or Subaru Imprezas. I'm generally fairly polite about giving way, but I never let them in, just for being pushy tossers.

Next door neighbour who can't parallel park (even when the space is so big she could have driven forwards into it) and reversed into my car on Monday morning, leaving scratch marks, but decided not to say anything about it. She gets right up my nose. She doesn't know I saw her - but I was looking out of the bedroom window at the time.

I see we've all been shopping at Sweeping Generalisations R Us (for a change )

Perhaps these people are having a moment. I've had them everyone has, yes, it is annoying but sometimes people make mistakes.

ThatIsn'tToSayThereAren'tPeopleWhoShouldn'tBeDrivingButJustToPopANewPerspectiveInTiggaxx

Anyone else sing "Youuu can fuck right ooooofffff" while staring straight ahead ignoring the person trying to push in? (Disclaimer: I'm much nicer to people legitemately merging. My driveway used to back onto a busy road, and people wouldn't even leave a gap to let me out when they were queued from the traffic lights. Fuckers, all of them.)

loads of retired people where we live and they are the worst - pull out in front of you, go 30 miles an hour on a roads, never indicate (how old people say youngsters are inconsiderate i don't know).

I can't believe people actually think it's ok just to pick and lane on the motorway (I'm guessing its always the middle lane) and stick in it? If that's not inconsiderate driving, I don't know what is.

Yes, I agree that it's unworkable to have to keep pulling into the inside lane every hundred metres between lorries, that's why you should use the middle lane to OVERTAKE if there are a number of lorries closely spaced but pull into the left lane as soon as it is clear enough to do so (and there is room in front for you to maintain your road position beyond say 300/500 metres).

I took motorway driving lessons and was always taught that there's no such thing as slow, medium and fast lanes. Everyone should default to the left hand lane if there is adequate room. I don't buy the 'it's more dangerous to keep changing lanes' because if I come up behind someone hogging the middle lane when they should be in the left hand lane, to avoid undertaking them I have to:

• indicate and move into the middle lane
• indicate and move into the right hand lane
• indicate and move back into the middle lane
• indicate and move BACK into the left lane

Whilst all the while they are tootling along ooblivious to the fact that they are causing eeveryone who comes across them grief and also causing me to make 2 unneccessary lane changes. If they'd just get in the left hand lane where they belong I could overtake them in just two lane changes.

Sorry Lesley33 I was using tec-speak. 'Light-controlled' means you press a button and the lights 'control' the traffic.

It is confusing with Zebra, Pelican, Puffin, Toucan crossings, not many people know the difference, I have to admit I've never come across a Pegasus crossing either mousesma

I think what such people fail to realise is that they are, in effect, occupying two lanes of the motorway, as overtaking on the inside is illegal.

Oh wait, I have come across a Pegasus crossing, its the one with the button high up so horse riders to cross. Or so I think!

It is not an offence to undertake -though you may be driving carelessly or dangerously.

There's a pegasus crossing on the A3 at Roehampton Vale as the horses cross into Richmond Park.