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To not actually know what social class I am?

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TheDogAteIt · 01/02/2011 13:52

Their seems to be a lot of middle class vs working class vs chav etc on AIBU. So what criteria do you need to fill in order to be in one of these?

Maybe all the knowledgable MN's out there can help, so I can behave accordingly?

Education - Uni
Job - Public sector worker (wage £23000 pa)
Married - Yes
Child - One
Age I became a mother - Mid-twenties
BF? - Was crap at it, gave up at 6 weeks
Home - Average 3 bed semi (owned) in non-posh, non-rough area

Other suggestions for class criteria welcomed Grin

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Litchick · 02/02/2011 10:56

Yup - that's why no amount of degrees, and cash and MC lifestyling will make me or DH MC.

We just can't do it.

Our DC on the otherhand will probably identify as being MC.

Or is our money not old enough.

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TimeToStartACHEEKYDiet · 02/02/2011 11:40

Education - GCSE/NVQ L2
Job - SAHM
Married - Yes
Child - Two
Age I became a mother - 20
BF? - Gave up at 6 weeks with DS1 - 1 day with DS2
Home - Council non furnished 2 bed terrace

i am lower end working class lol

unpa1dcar3r · 02/02/2011 21:40

1)Anyone who works is working class.
2)Anyone who doesn't is either under class or upper class.
3)Anyone who doesn't work because they have been made redundant/lost their job etc and cannot find a new one due to recession and relies on benefits is statistically underclass. The same as someone who cares for a disabled person/s and only receives benefits as their caring commitments mean they cannot sustain paid employment.
4)Someone who is too rich and doesn't need to work is statistically upper class.

I would rather spend my time with someone from the 3rd group than the 4th.
I am/must be underclass (although I don't drink fruit shoots and have a very good degree!)

onceamai · 02/02/2011 22:52

What am I then Una - my dc had fruit shoots (occasionally), I didn't go to uni, but I work although I don't need to Confused

Remotew · 02/02/2011 23:11

Owning a home, nice car, uni doesn't make one middle class, sorry.

I own a house, car, level 4 educated, single parent at 33, nice hols, enjoy culture, well travelled, work for a living. I wouldn't say I was underclass, definitely not middle class but DD does say we are poor but not common. Grin. I like that! But seriously who gives a shit.

ThisIsANiceCage · 02/02/2011 23:16

Hope you're all giving the BBC Great British Class Survey the benefit of this immense combined wisdom?

MrsBananaGrabber · 03/02/2011 03:48

My DH and I joke with each other all the time about our 'common-ness' we are both very working class but live a middle class lifestyle. My DH once said hoola hoop and dropped both 'aitches in the process, it's a running joke.

We have a very big house, new cars and care about our DC's education. I'm a uni drop out but now have my own photography business, Dh is an engineer and we live abroad due to his job. I was 21 when our first DC was born, I read the Guardian but we have a massive TV, it's a bloody minefield.

figcake · 03/02/2011 09:32

unpa1 - where on earth did you get that from?

FellatioNelson · 03/02/2011 11:02

unpa what a very peculiar way of looking at things. So when my husband was unemployed for 6 months due to redundancy we must have been upper class, as we didn't claim any benefits, but now he is working again we are working class. Hmm

leftandaright · 03/02/2011 11:43

I think you have to have a handle (not bought!) to be classed as upper class.
I see myself as upper middle class - and have read Jilly Cooper's class book.
British social class system is a minefield of generally harmless fun but that bbc2 documentary last night would perhaps have us believe it is not so harmless after all.

unpa1dcar3r · 03/02/2011 11:48

Figcake n Fellatio, it was tongue in cheek!

I couldn't give a flying fart about class. It still exists despite what we are led to believe but as long as you're decent and kind and do your best then you're upper class in my book.
Money cannot buy true class.

figcake · 03/02/2011 12:15

Ah OK Smile

FellatioNelson · 03/02/2011 12:37

Oh, I see!

unpa1dcar3r · 03/02/2011 13:16

It used to be a lot simpler; if you earned over a certain amount per yr you were middle class, similar for working and upper.

Years ago women were classed by what their husband did for a living. So a female doctor who married a binman would be working class.
If a maid married a solicitor she was considered middle class. Crazy huh!

Now the boundaries are so blurred. If you live below 60% of the median income you're considered to be in poverty.
But this could apply to not only those who haven't got paid employment but single people on minimum wage (they don't get any benefits such as tax credits). Similarly if you pay over 10% of your income on heating then you are considered to be in poverty.

Statistically one could be considered under class because they are living on benefits for whatever reason. However, not necessarily if underclass are considered to be scummy/violent/workshy/druggies/sink estates and so on.

This is why I prefer to go by a persons outlook and standards rather than what they bring home each month in salary.

redandyellowandpinkandgreen · 03/02/2011 19:48

If you have a pink pashmina you are posh.

Simples.

porcine · 03/02/2011 21:13

I have a degree and quite a few postgraduate ones.
I work in a professional job. (part time as we dont need the money).
My parents were both consultants.
My grandparents had degrees obtained in the 1920's. Grandfather was a lawyer and grandmother a school headmistress.
Went to private schools. Brother went to boarding school.
Always had a holiday beach house for summer and holidays abroad when a child.
Live in 3 bedroom semi. No mortgage. One child.

but
I drive and old car, dont wear designer or boden, shop at lidl and my husband is a working class man from a working class family. He owns a business but is uneducated..

so what are we? lol

porcine · 03/02/2011 21:15

Oh yes and I got an allowance when i was at university...a couple of grand each term, no loans.

Xenia · 03/02/2011 21:42

We have to hear your voice too and see how you dress to decide. I suspect I am middle class.

porcine · 03/02/2011 21:44

I dress like a woman in her 40's (as I am one). I dont speak with the local accent. I have spare money.

Xenia · 03/02/2011 22:00

Spare money doesn't always determine class.

If you watch www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00yb5kv/Who_Gets_the_Best_Jobs/ you get to see class differences reasonably well.

porcine · 03/02/2011 22:03

I dont believe we have a "class".

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