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To think that really boring people see highly creative people as children?

388 replies

Heroine · 23/01/2011 22:07

I AM JUST SAYING..

I had a weird thing happen, I am quite creative and like decorative stuff and cool quirky things and someone who I thought was on the same wavelength gave me a real dressing down when I showed her some cool japanese quirky notebooks I bought - with that sort of stylised fluffy, hearty, pop=art style, she sais the thought it was childish and unprofessional. (!). i thought it was just fun..

It made me think that all the people who make the rules about what is 'professional' are really just all the really dull tedious unimaginative types and that is why they think creativity is likely to diminish performance - because they can't handle it and it freaks their boring little heads out.

(I know this might seem to conflict with my 'women who run fluffy novelty businesses' thread, but I'm just saying (and not explaining well) that the dull people seem to never be interested in anything, and seem to make the rules, and the people who went wild and got into interestingb things in their teens and 20s but had to droip them because the dull run the world, are seen by the dull people as 'only having childish ideas'.
It seems a bit sad - does anyone see what I mean?? It seems to be getting worse as women have more serious jobs - I get it but as I'm a bit 'consultant-ish' I can ride above it, but it seems that somewhere there is a book that says you can't be clever or get things done or reliable unless you think and dress in a dull boring way.. and that makes no sense to me..

sorry for going on, but I think there somethin in my uncomfortableness at being thought of as childish when I think of myself as an adult who has some sense of humour and creativity.

Am I being unreasonable??

OP posts:
aurynne · 24/01/2011 02:59

I am highly creative, and like colorful things... and still think you sound incredibly childish and highly annoying :P

Oh, and obsessed with the word "boring".

That's regardless of the "quirky" notebooks you use...

echt · 24/01/2011 03:05

I've never thought to ask this before, but, OP, how old are you?

onmyfeet · 24/01/2011 03:18

I think you are thinking too much about it.
Be who you are and don't worry about what others think.

BaggedandTagged · 24/01/2011 04:05

Have we found out what the OP creates yet? If not, could she enlighten us.

onmyfeet · 24/01/2011 05:18

I believe she is a para legal.

luckybuddah · 24/01/2011 07:48

Oh no you dont wear a winnie the pooh fleece do you? Grin

ensure · 24/01/2011 08:10

melezca hey they look quite interesting actually!

TheCoalitionNeedsYou · 24/01/2011 08:11

As long as it's not a Daffy Duck sweatshirt....

TrillianAstra · 24/01/2011 08:44

Bloody hell, how many posts?

Have we established if the IP is creative, childish, both or neither yet?

TrillianAstra · 24/01/2011 08:54

AH, we've established that she assigns and unnatural amount of significance to the notepad that you use, and believes it to be inextricabtly tied to your creativity.

so are you saying that she was saying that I'm not creative because |I have colourful notepads,

No

or do you think she was saying that I must be creative because I am in the childstate

No

or do you think she wa=s just saying that she thought if she has colourful notepads she would feel childish?

No. She was saying that your notepads are childish. That is all.

melezka · 24/01/2011 08:57

ensure I think they're fab - if not faintly disturbing...

PlanetLizard · 24/01/2011 08:58

YABU. She just thinks there's a time and a place for fluffy notebooks. She may be very creative in many other ways.

ZZZenAgain · 24/01/2011 09:05

I tried to understand your OP heroine and a few of yourother posts but I didn't get past page 3 so if I missed a lot, sorry.

I think you sound a bit snobbish, looking down your nose at all these dullards who mess up your world. I can't stand snobbism of any form. Has to be one of the dullest traits out there IMO.

I spent about 2 minutes thinking about it and I realised the most creative person I know is a composr. He wears bog standard clothes that you would classify as conservative and dull. I think the music he composes is amazing and I don'tk now but I don't think he needs far-out hair-styles and glittery pads to do it. Ifyou like it, you like it but it is isn't necessary to like that kind of external style in order to be creative.

In a way I wonder if itwouldn't even distract from it a bit.

LeonardNimoy · 24/01/2011 09:15

Haven't read whole thread, but think OP is a 14 yr old with a stationary fetish.
When you grow up you might realize that it's what you do that matters, not what you wear while you do it.

Heroine · 24/01/2011 10:26

but you can stand snobbery against people you think are snobs, right? Hmm

OP posts:
ZZZenAgain · 24/01/2011 10:34

I don't feel respect or admiration for people who are snobs - that is correct

ZZZenAgain · 24/01/2011 10:39

Alone from the OP there is enough to dislike really. To dislike someone for arrogant, snobbish, nasty comments is not the same as being snobbish:

"..all the really dull tedious unimaginative types and that is why they think creativity is likely to diminish performance - because they can't handle it and it freaks their boring little heads out."

"the dull run the world" "seen by the dull people". "dress in a dull boring way"

ZZZenAgain · 24/01/2011 10:40

"I think of myself as an adult who has some sense of humour and creativity.

Am I being unreasonable??"

well yes, since you asked YABU. Where is this sense of humour and how are you creative - as opposed to just plain twattish?

LadyintheRadiator · 24/01/2011 11:12

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LaVieEnTechnicolor · 24/01/2011 11:21

Her name will be Jenn3ie. The 3 is silent (wow, how wacky) and the i has a heart instead of a dot over it.

expatinscotland · 24/01/2011 11:22

You got this worked up over some dumb ass notebooks?

Hmm
TrillianAstra · 24/01/2011 11:24

No, she got this worked up over some very creative unique mass produced notebooks.

FreeButtonBee · 24/01/2011 11:42

Sorry, I know it was ages ago, but Moondog your post re Ford Focus drving really did make me LOL.

I am a bit meh about this. There are lots of dull people around if you focus on the dull.

I work in a bank with traders and some of them are demonstrably bonkers by any standard of normality. They are truly interesting and creative in their field but if you saw then on the tube they just look like boring grey men in suits.

I also have some creative friends working in fashion and media and the like, some of them are pretty conservative and some very outgoing/extrovert and 'different'. Takes all sorts.

MordechaiVanunu · 24/01/2011 11:42

This is hilarious!!

OP, peoples choice in notebooks tells you nothing about them apart from taste in notebooks.

Most adults never stop to consider their taste in notebooks.

Some adukts may carefully chose their notebook to try to portay a particular image eg creative or professional, but the image they are projecting may not be realistic.

People will make passing judgements on your outward projections eg what you wear, and even apparently the stationery you use. Accept it, or if it bothers you, change it.

Perhaps the time had come for you to realise that in a professional setting many adults would consider japenese quirky notebooks childish. If you think that's a bad thing, and don't want to be viewed as childish, use a different notebook.

For what it's worth, I'm very uncreative, but terribly interesting Grin, and if I stopped to consider it I'd probably plump for a Cath Kidson notebook. So, judge me.

bruffin · 24/01/2011 11:58

This always reminds me of the school uniform threads where parents are anti because their little darlings "can't express themselves" through clothes. They seem to think the only way their children can be creative is by wearing clashy stripes or whatever.

Neither the two professional artists I know, are at all quirky or feel the need to express it in what they wear or by having funky notepads.