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To think that the Tories will mess up this country worse tahn teh last goverment?

148 replies

poshsinglemum · 23/01/2011 18:21

With all this talk about shuting down libraries. I am horrified. It's disgusting. What else will they do away with? Nappy changing facilities, buses? Hospitals? What were people thinking when they voted for thm?

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ReclaimingMyInnerPeachy · 23/01/2011 20:33

'If you go to the local library you will not find people who can't buy books in my opinion

Rubbish

The entire library my aprents frequent is full of pensioners and small kids

Our Cm takes her charges weekly

they wouldn;t all just buy books

I grew up poor; books were one ayear purchased at Christmas. I read so voraciously that in the pre computerised days they never even botherd to send my tags for filing as I;d be back before it was done: my tickets went in a special little box.

It has stood me in excellent stead all my life.

Spidermama · 23/01/2011 20:35

Ah Peachy thanks. Smile
It's good to see you too.

mamatomany · 23/01/2011 20:35

When we grew up books were expensive they are now 99p in Tesco's, pensioners could afford to buy, as could childminders maybe not a new one every week but then just as DVD's aren't free entertainment, why should books be ?

ReclaimingMyInnerPeachy · 23/01/2011 20:38

She doesn;t use DVDs eitehr.

Libraries- what about huge reference collections? I used many of them when studying, shoudl we just buy those as well?

Libraries are wonderful things: a joy and a gift to mankind. My aprents can;t chuck 99p at a book at the rate they both read- rarely wathc TV- and they can;t just get the historical and technical books they want in tesco either.

99p anyway? I doubt it! So if a parents says to me 'I really need to read up on X diagnosis' I should say that's OK, Tesco stock all the books for 99p. Do they ehck as like: Mills & Boon and a few crappy specials. you can't even get a magazine worth the energy of lifting for 99p

ManateeEquineOhara · 23/01/2011 20:38

Course they will fuck it all up, that is what happens running a country by ideology rather than what is actually needed. Labour did NOT fuck up anyway - there was a global credit crunch, and Labour managed it well, saving the country from the even greater fuck ups that would have occurred should such an incident happen under a Tory govt (no bail outs, leave everything to 'market forces'.

Booandpops · 23/01/2011 20:40

I voted Tory as I was fed up of the non working benefit lifestyles. I also voted as they promised to keep child benefit ( family allowance) I feel so angry and let down as they people they promised to tackle are now also the disabled. The students. The hardworking families that get a little bit extra in the form of child benefit On top we are loosing services that are a benefit to the whole of society ie librarys musuems etc That's not what I signed up for and Tory have now lost my vote I have no idea who I will vote for however as I'm also not happy with labour. It's not good. I'm self employed and my income as shrunk rapidly in the last year due to couple holding on to thief money for fear of redundancy etc I'm lucky my dh still has a good job so we are coping but take away my child benefit and free services and life will be much harder.
I'm [Angry]

Booandpops · 23/01/2011 20:42

Sorry lots of typos in that one. Not thief money. Their money!!

sfxmum · 23/01/2011 20:42

I genuinely don't know so I will ask

what is the percentage of households where no one has ever worked and live solely on benefits? and of those how many are families with children and how many many single or elderly people?

ManateeEquineOhara · 23/01/2011 20:45

I don't know sfx - I would also be interested - a low percentage I guess, and probably also a percentage that does not change regardless of govt.

ReclaimingMyInnerPeachy · 23/01/2011 20:45

You see boosand what you saw as separate isues- non working lifestyles and the disbaled- the conservatives see as the same thing (party not voters)

there's a few quotes on the abolition of DLA thread from reports carried out by a now Tory Peer about how removing Disability benefits will teach the responsibility of working and solve the whole isue.

My ds3 couldn;t even say responsibility fgs: he's currently stood next to me satring at the carpet rocking, But teh plan is to only allow 15 - 20 % to stay on disability benefits for more than a year and as he can walk and talk, just not hold attention / be safe in any way / be understood or communicate about anything kuch other than Ben ten DS Games, he won;t be in that small group.

I have no ideas how to protect him barring finding the secret of immortality. But labour are not against the changes either, he's fucked.

ReclaimingMyInnerPeachy · 23/01/2011 20:46

sfx I don;t even know if that has been collated tbh; certainly not with carers & disabled removed.

that in itself is deliberate

WinkyWinkola · 23/01/2011 20:49

"I voted Tory as I was fed up of the non working benefit lifestyles"

I still want to hear how many of these there are. If you voted Tory because of them then you should know how many there are and how big a problem it is exactly.

Remotew · 23/01/2011 20:53

I'm fairly sure that if they were handing out unnecessary benefits to all the underserving workshy the will be taking it off them pronto Hmm.

To those who say give them a chance they have only been in power for a few months need to put themselves in the shoes of the people who have been greatly affected in these past few months. e.g students, school kids, the disabled. If they haven't had a dertrimental affect on your life yet they will do, just you wait.

sfxmum · 23/01/2011 20:57

I think the last government made quite a few mistakes by basically throwing money at some problems and thinking that ideas coming from the top were going to change things just because they imagine it or wanted it badly enough
but I do think they did quite a lot of work in truing to raise children out of poverty, most studies point to an improvement but inequality also increased over the same period of time

interesting report In work child poverty

I think they should have reformed Welfare and the NHS when the going was good instead of leaving it to be dismantled

Booandpops · 23/01/2011 20:58

Winky - I have no idea but in my local area it seems a lot. Maybe I should know the figures but I didnt look into this before casting my vote. I always voted Tory before and was generally happy with my choice I admit this time round I was taken in but never again! My local mp is Tory and was good for the area. Saving our local hospital etc but the coalition ( mainly Tory IMO) are a whole new kettle of fish. And a stinky one at that!!

kerstina · 23/01/2011 21:00

Yes you are right hospitals will be next as they are planning to privatise the NHS through the back door make no mistake .Go to the politics threads and read what longfingernails says about the health reforms (and she is a Tory). I found it really chilling.

sfxmum · 23/01/2011 21:02

bit wider picture here

ReclaimingMyInnerPeachy · 23/01/2011 21:02

worth a read as well

StuckinTheMiddlewithYou · 23/01/2011 21:08

Yes, a 99p copy of Cheryl Cole's autobiography really is a replacement for the library service... Angry

huddspur · 23/01/2011 21:14

YABU they could hardly do any worse than the Labour Government who gave the country its deepest recession for 70 years, started a war that was probably illegal and destroyed many of our civil liberties.

ReclaimingMyInnerPeachy · 23/01/2011 21:16

Amazing how many countries simulataneoulsy ahd such terrible adminstrations that they all went into recession at the smae time

Do i think lab were perfect? No. Did I vote for GB? Nope. Do I think labour caused the entire financial collpase? Nope.

huddspur · 23/01/2011 21:18

ReclaimingMyInnerPeachy the global economy as a whole did suffer problems but we were one of the hardest hit and this was largely down to policy failures and mistakes by the Labour Government

Remotew · 23/01/2011 21:18

The Global financial crisis was not the fault of the last government.

StuckinTheMiddlewithYou · 23/01/2011 21:19

I just love the way people can blame labour for the global finacial colapse. Haven't you people heard of Ireland, Greece? Sub-prime mortages?

StuckinTheMiddlewithYou · 23/01/2011 21:20

Huddspur, again, I give you Ireland, Greece...