to think men seem to have taken to MN in their droves recently......and I don't like it

[LadyBlaBlah]

Every thread I go on, there are men putting forward their opinion

I have enough of men in RL. AIBU thinking they should bog off to DN or go play the X Box or something?

No Cabbage, it would mean you were doing it in a way that denied or minimised the greater knowledge and experience of your black audience. You are able to do that, because your privilege as a white person who has never faced racism, has protected you from experiencing what your audience has experienced and what you are telling them that they haven't, because you haven't. In other words, you are privileging your experience over their's and imagining that because you haven't experienced what they have, they must be imagining it or lying about it.

As I said earlier, you can only take that attitude, if you really don't respect who you are talking to.

I understand that HB, but seriously, what a massive number of assumptions carried under the word 'white'.

I dislike the way it is a step removed from that whichit actually describes. It's at best lazy and at worst, shamefully inaccurate.

Why not be hung up on the individual and their multiple failings than the fact that they may be of that persuasion simply because they are white?

waan't what she said though? And I ahve never touched an x-box in my life ( wouldn't know one if it landed on my head). That pathetic, silly jibe didn't help.

there is a lot of prejudice against men on here isn't there. Loads of it. It's horrible.

And in what way were you 'womansplaining' to me, Coleysworth? Or to Pan for that matter...how does that term fit in with HB's explanation?

Can you really only understand things because you are a woman? seriously? It's such a crappy and divisive term.

Why not reduce it to the conduct of individuals? Because that wouldn't be a political analysis of the situation, cabbage. Mansplain is a word used by feminists who tend to agree that men as a group are privileged at the expense of women. If you don't subscribe to that view then mansplain is going to be a meaningless term for you, I guess.

it would change a great deal. and for the poorer I think. But it ain't gonna happen, is it?

It will never be 50/50 on here there isn't a car topic, thank god.

Oh don't truck, you'll give them ideas

I don't know if you intend it Coleys but you're still coming across as extremely patronising. You might not mean it that way...I do understand the concept of feminism, thankyou.

But I find some of its dogma very unhelpful. Very unhelpful indeed. I was a militant feminist about 20 years ago and learned a great deal from my experiences.

I disagreed with it being used as with description of a behaviour a minority of men do as though majority do it.

no coley, you are defending a nasty little generalisation by pointing t omale privilge as a defence. It's rot, and the analysis is reserved for people who are easily convinced or just 'want to believe'.

now really am off to S&B.

I apologise for taking such a facetious tone towards you before cabbage, it was unnecessarily tetchy.

Pan, whatever. You seem to be incapable of understanding the concept. Maybe that's because you've never had the misfortune of being on the receiving end of it as so many (but clearly not all) women have.

thankyou, I understand you probaby thought I was a bloke.

I think the point is - well, one of them - that even if there is a really convoluted way in which it could almost not be a generalisation, it is because of the structure of this language, almost inevitably taken and used as one.

Which I feel is damaging and a little sneaky.

Now I've never been in 'Style and Beauty' it sounds terrifying.

Do they have a section on 'Trainers and jogging bottoms'?