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To feel aggressively befriended by these people?

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ThisFeelsWeird · 12/01/2011 15:45

I have name changed for this! Apologies for the length.

In the summer DH and I attended a church bbq. It was directly after Mass one Sunday so we dropped in to be sociable. We know a few people to say hello too and it was pleasant enough. Towards the end we got talking to a guy we didn't know and had never seen before but who seemed perfectly nice. The conversation was fairly brief, a bit of "Nice day isn't it?" and "Do you live far?" etc etc Then he saw some kids walking through the park with tennis rackets and said "Oh, my wife and I love to play tennis but hardly do it anymore" to which I said "Oh, yes, us too - it's hard to find time isn't it?"

He then suggests DH and I join him and his wife some time for a game (we hadn't even exchanged names at this point) and I sort of smiled as you do with strangers and said "Ooh, I'm not very good I'm afraid", and started to feel a bit uncomfortable. He then started chatting to DH and asking really personal questions about where we live, what we do etc etc then got his phone out and said "Can I have your number? My wife and I are new round here and it'd be great to know more people." DH was totally put on the spot and gave him his mobile number as everyone was sort of smiling nervously at each other at this point and he didn't want to appear rude. Plus, the guy seemed nice enough, just a bit lonely, and I suppose we did feel a bit sorry for him and, after all, we had just been to Mass!

He then started cooing over DS and told me rather randomly that he and his wife were having difficulty conceiving (they are a good ten years older than us) and he was sure she'd love to chat to me if I had any advice in that area. WTF? Remember, ten minutes earlier the guy was a total stranger. I just mumbled "Oh dear, I'm sorry, it can be hard sometimes."

Anyway, we quickly forgot about the episode until about a month later when he started texting DH to see if we fancied going round to theirs for dinner some time? We decided to ignore it as I felt a bit weirded out by it and we hadn't seen them at Mass again since then so just decided to put it out of our minds.

Then, shortly before Christmas, he and his wife suddenly started appearing at church on Sunday and afterwards making a bee-line for us and acting as if we are long-lost buddies. And every time they go on and on about getting our diaries out and organising to have lunch or something. Last night he texted again to say please tell us a Sunday in Jan when you are free to come to ours after Mass for cake. They are French and divide their time between the two countries (I think she is a lecturer at a French uni and he might be a writer) so that explains why we have only seen them sporadically.

DH thinks this is all quite funny and says he doesn't mind going round to eat the cake, smile, let them coo over the baby then head home and move on. But I feel it will only be the beginning. I really feel a bit creeped out by them. They are much older than us and are little more than strangers. We hardly know them, I don't even know his wife's name and whilst I am always happy to make new friends, I do think you need a little bit of time to get to know someone before you start having dinner with them.

AIBU not to want to be forced into having a friendship with people just because they really, really want it? How do I get out of it? Am I being a bit precious to feel aggressively befriended? I'm no great shakes, honest, not really sure why they like us so much actually! I'm just happy to say hello and smile for now. We ave such a busy life and lots of people to catch up with that we hardly see as it is I just can't be bothered forcing a friendship out of nothing.

But how do I get out of it? Do I just have to go along with it? Would it be very rude and unchristian just to ignore them? I don't want to be a bitch but I just can't be arsed. And, like I say, it does feel a bit creepy.

WWYD?

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werewolf · 12/01/2011 16:43

Who did they talk to before they met you, op?

HangingbaublesofBethlehem · 12/01/2011 16:46

cor, talk about having a Christian attitude Hmm

GrendelsMum · 12/01/2011 16:50

Oh, don't be so silly. They're inviting you to have some cake after Mass because they're in a new country and don't know anyone. I went to have dinner with an older couple I met at church, without knowing them at all, and they turned out to be lovely, really interesting people, and I really enjoyed it, and we ended up setting up a new project together.

LindyHemming · 12/01/2011 16:51

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charliesmommy · 12/01/2011 16:53

YABU

If anything, I dont know why they are bothering with you both, as you appear to be unfriendly and not keen to even try and make friends with this couple.

They are in a strange country, and trying to make friends rather than be isolated.

smallwhitecat · 12/01/2011 16:54

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QuintessentialShadows · 12/01/2011 16:57

Blimey!

A couple who is new to England, hoping to find friends in their local church, find that the congregation is throwing each other silent glances at their attempt to mingle and get to know people, when they get chatting to the ONLY couple, by sounds of things, who dont ignore them.

THEN, they get a phone number, and they are keen to meet up, invite you for cake, and you are what? Xenophobic? Scared?

You know, I have been that couple.

Many years ago, a friend of my dh asked to join her and some friends for a bbq. She was polish like my dh. We got the address, bought some chicken drumsticks and went to the bbq. We rang the doorbell. The hostess opened and glared at us, we said Agniesca had invited us. Narrowed eyes. "Oh, come in". We handed her the chicken drumsticks, she held them in a pincer grip and carried them at an arms length into the kitchen, and they were never to be seen again.

We entered the living room. Agniesca greeted us happily. It was a bbq after mass get together. We had not been to mass. Agniesca had, but we did not know. Nobody spoke to us, aside from Agniesca. Then people stopped speaking to her. We did not want to seem rude, so felt we had to stay on a little bit. It was horrid.

Hmm OP, dont tell me your church bbq was up in Golders Green? Seems like your lot is as unfriendly and unwelcoming to newcomers/foreginers as this lot of Catholics.
Deux · 12/01/2011 16:58

I wonder if there may be a cultural thing going on here. On some countries it's commonplace to invite people to your home.

I have a friend who worked overseas a lot and was constantly amazed by her European colleagues who would invite visiting colleagues to their homes to socialise. Whereas here in the UK the norm was to take visiting colleagues to restaurants etc.

Are you concerned that they are older than you as you mention it twice in your post. You could use the cake thing as a means of seeing if you have anything in common.

I do think a bit of christian charity is called for.

Vakant · 12/01/2011 16:59

It's fine to invite people over, smallwhitecat. Nothing wrong with being proactive in trying to make new friends. It's the repeated asking when it's clear the other party isn't interested that's weird.

Deux · 12/01/2011 17:02

One more thing. I think if you really do not want to have anything to do with this couple then you should do the decent thing and tell them so in a non-offensive manner.

smallwhitecat · 12/01/2011 17:04

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Fenugreek · 12/01/2011 17:05

Wow. I think you are being totally unreasonable OP.

In fact, I think YOU are the one being weird about this, not them.

But actually, you are probably just being English, aren't you?

Their way of making friends is very normal. You have something in common (church) and you live in the same area. So you swap numbers and meet up for casual socializing. Either you get on or you don't. This is how I made all my friends when I moved to a new country.

But you Carry on being hoity and sneery about them. Please don't go for cake. They need nicer friends than you.

loopylou6 · 12/01/2011 17:05

Grin at being groomed for swinging sex. I wouldn't go OP, they might have their own sexual torture chamber in the basement and you'd never get out...OR they want you to have a baby for them so they're gonna kidnap ya mwah haha

ThisIsNotMySandwich · 12/01/2011 17:09

I have only read the OP so sorry if I'm repeating or sound like I'm going against grain.

You sound really uptight to me.

1.They are new to the area
2.They are very forthright
3.They are foreign (see above)
4.None of the what you say about them is odd when it comes to explaining how they seem

Go to another church or just brush them off a bit(you can be eternally busy)and they will get the message. You never know you might actually like them after a bit. If you don't get a good feeling about them fair enough but to bitch about them and say they are creepy given your OP seems a bit much to me.

Vakant · 12/01/2011 17:10

Should the OP befriend every waif and straif that comes her way?

What part of "We have such a busy life and lots of people to catch up with that we hardly see as it is I just can't be bothered forcing a friendship out of nothing" do people not understand?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with not wanting to make more friends if they feel their time is stretched already for the friends, and presumably family, they want to make time for.

smallwhitecat · 12/01/2011 17:12

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ThisIsNotMySandwich · 12/01/2011 17:12

Vakant that is fine but to come on here and slate them & describe them as creepy/odd and weird seems a bit rich to me and frankly very unchristian - yes. Hmm

Vakant · 12/01/2011 17:19

But aybe they are creepy and odd!

Anyway, I'm not sure she is slating them, just describing how the whole situation made her feel. She came on here to ask if she was being unreasonable to not want to be forced into friendship with them, not sure she can ask for opinions on that without describing what actually happened and how it made her feel.

StayingDavidTennantsGirl · 12/01/2011 17:28

She doesn't have to befriend every waif and stray - but she could try to empathise a little with how they are feeling, new to an area, knowing no-one, feeling lonely and wanting to make some friends - that's not weird or creepy in my book.

As others have said, maybe they are not coming across very well because they are not speaking their own language.

I think I may appear a bit OTT at times, but that is because I am very shy, and find it very hard to strike up conversations with people, but at the same time, I felt very lonely and isolated for a long time after we moved up here.

If she doesn't want to befriend them herself, it wouldn't take much effort to introduce them round at church, so they could make some other friends - that would be the christian and caring thing to do.

stillbobbysgirl · 12/01/2011 17:28

God this is soooo English! You would think they are sizing you up for somthing awful instead of just trying to be friends! English people can be very strange about letting others into thier homes/lives. Some of my friends are amazed by my sort of Irish open house way of life that I was reared with.

Lighten up and be nice - you might find that you actually like them.

I agree with other posters that I hope you never have to move to a new place and try to make friends.

ThisIsNotMySandwich · 12/01/2011 17:29

what stillbobby said too.

StayingDavidTennantsGirl · 12/01/2011 17:32

I should have said - I think I may appear a bit OTT at times, but I think I am overcompensating for my shyness - and perhaps my loneliness shows too.

Where I used to live, I had a lovely bunch of friends who used to drop in all the time for coffee and gossip, and I don't have that any more. I have one lovely neighbour who comes in sometimes, and we either walk eachother's dogs or (once) walk them together - and I think I can count her as a friend (though I am not sure why she'd want to be my friend) but she works so sometimes we don't get together for ages.

Sorry to inflict my insecurities on this thread, but I can empathise with these people and how they are feeling - and it is a horrible feeling.

monkeyflippers · 12/01/2011 17:38

QuintessentialShadows That sounds horrible! Why were they like that?

katiestar · 12/01/2011 17:51

'Should the OP befriend every waif and stray that comes her way'

Fellowship is an important aspect of christianity though.

radiohelen · 12/01/2011 18:01

YABU. They just want to have cake and coffee. Stop being such a prissy knickers and open up to the possibilities. (Not the swinging obv....Wink)

If you think Catholic after mass gatherings are bad you want to try mother and toddler groups round here. The school playground wasn't as hard to navigate as some of these places. All women, all hell bent on ignoring ANYONE new, all judging from behind their coffee mugs! Heaven forfend they should actually have to allow someone else into their little clique......