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To shout at the TV whilst watching One Born at Christmas?

160 replies

thehumanpacifier · 26/12/2010 20:16

Just feeling a bit cheated, although I know Live TV is not without problems.

It has made me a tad broody though, so must have enjoyed parts [shocked]

Just wondered your thoughts?

OP posts:
dustycups · 26/12/2010 23:45

vegetarian! 19! like gay people!!!! and they let you be a parent!!! { shakes head } Grin

immortalbeloved · 27/12/2010 00:03

I am PMSL that futurepm's arguement against same sex couples having children is that it's 'not what nature intended' but also against teenage mums, nature definitely intended them to have babies...... You are never more fertile than when in your teens Grin

PenguinArmy · 27/12/2010 07:09

I thought it was more natural (generally more traditional at least) for just women to raise children.

giraffesCantDanceOnAllThisSnow · 27/12/2010 07:50

I am so glad the next generation are growing up more open about sexuality, and one day all this will be as laughable as saying women shouldn't work, blacks should stand on the bus...Hmm Ofcourse the odd wanker slips through the net. There is so many more things to WORRY about than whether or not parents have the same sex organs.

kat2504 · 27/12/2010 08:05

Nature didn't entirely intend a number of people on this site to procreate. Perhaps we should go and tell that to the lovely long suffering posters in Assisted Conception should we?
Nature intended for women to procreate. A lesbian could still do this in the traditional manner with a man if she so chose by means of having sex. Might not be her usual cup of tea but still natural!!

FanjoForTheMincePies · 27/12/2010 08:12

I wouldn't waste any energy arguing with FuturePM the DailyMailBot.

JeezyPeeps · 27/12/2010 08:21

Hmmm. Nature. Interesting point to make.

There are very very few species in nature that co-parent. In the vast majority of cases the female cares for the children while the male goes away and never looks back.

With primates only a small percentage are monogamous - and even the ones that are are prone to separating. There are many more polygamous or promiscuous primates.

There is evidence that suggests that humans are not designed to be monogamous - for example genetically the children are closer to their mother than their father. Many cultures and religions historically (and less so currently) support a polygamous way of life, any many theorists believe this is the natural order for humans - which effectively would mean that although there is a father figure, he is by no means full time and the children are more likely to be raised in a social group of women and children.

Nature is a funny thing, and quite often 'nature' and 'societies norms' get confused.

Sorry for hijacking op - I didn't watch so can't comment.

northernrock · 27/12/2010 09:07

Very True Jeezy.

The thing is people are not primates, and most people are not primitives either, so we are all constantly doing things that are "not natural" regardless.

Like shopping in the supermarket. Watching TV. Driving. Being married. Using condoms. Going to work in offices.Colouring our hair.

Very little about the way we live is exactly as cavewoman would have lived. In my opinion this is a good thing!

And from another point of view, regarding who should raise children-It takes a village people!

TandB · 27/12/2010 09:22

Oh come on. Futurepm is clearly trying to wind everyone up. Look at her first few posts: don't agree with gay people having children, don't agree with teenage mums, didn't know gay people used MN and oh silly me, I must be retarded.

No-one is that naive. And then she throws into the mix: drains on society, don't believe in science and vegetarianism.

Methinks someone is playing Daily Mail bingo.

aurynne · 27/12/2010 10:12

northernrock: "The thing is people are not primates"...

What are we then? Fungi?

TandB · 27/12/2010 10:16

aurynne - I think we all know what she means.

ElspethDiggory · 27/12/2010 10:25

Can someone actually explain to me what was so bad about the programme (since this thread seems to have gone a teency bit off topic...)

girlsyearapart · 27/12/2010 10:37

Elspeth- did you see the original series?
This version was live so had two presenters one in a studio and one on the ward having dodgy skype chats with new parents and the woman presenter calling children 'bambinos' all the time.
They were asking stupid/thoughtless questions like 'so do you still think of Mia?' to a woman who had twins and the one who died was called Mia..
It did have clips of the labours which were ok and caught up with some parents from the original series but it was generally quite poor tv especially since the first series was so good.

theboobmeister · 27/12/2010 10:41

"It takes a village people" Grin

Really northernrock, it is hardly appropriate for an openly gay 70s pop band to raise children ... little Johnny will be queening around wearing fur chaps, little Jocasta sporting a big handlebar moustache, all hell will break loose on the streets of Esher!!

FanjoForTheMincePies · 27/12/2010 10:43
Grin
northernrock · 27/12/2010 10:58

Ha ha theboobmeister!

That sounds ace!

fairycake123 · 27/12/2010 11:21

People are primates.

FuturePM is a lulzy troll. Not sure if trolls are primates...

theevildead2 · 27/12/2010 11:42

I see trolls.

Anyway, back on topic, the female presenter (can't think of her name) needed a slap on several occasions. One when she sort of casually asked whether the child who had been born very prematurely would be "ok" or didn't they know yet... (can't write it as such, but the tone was like "so is it retarded?" I'm not trying to be offensive it was the way I took her comment.)

And when she asked the parents of twins who had lost one if they still thought of the other twin who had died!!!! Angry

Well it has been a year.. probably forgot about it haven't they. Cow

the guy was Ok although on the last one you could tell he was grumpy and fed up.

northernrock · 27/12/2010 12:23

Of course people are technically primates.

But we are a more highly evolved species than any other primate, and we live completely differently to all other primates so I think you can make a distinction between humans and other primates.

Thats all I meant.

girlsyearapart · 27/12/2010 12:30

I am with you evildead and shall continue to talk about the actual programme..
There is a new 'proper' series starting in January.
I think the female presenter (Julia bradbury ) will be watching it back and cringing..

Cleofartra · 27/12/2010 12:40

Only managed to watch 5 minutes. Infuriates me that all the women in the programme appear to be giving birth in the stranded beetle position and that despite the fact it's supposed to be about birth and newborns that there isn't a single glimpse of a baby being breastfed.

What is it with UK mums that they're willing to flash their stretchmarks, cellulite, fanny and bum on tv but nobody seems willing to put a baby to the breast on the same programme?

CheekyLittleStocking · 27/12/2010 13:12

Can i just say i saw the christmas eve OBAC and there was a women who was breastfeeding her baby so unless your DH wasnt watching - i think it was the couple Sandy & ...... whos baby was bf-ing. & TBH isnt it up to the women if she bf her baby - not your DH!

Im sorry i hate people assuming women are going to bf - what if they cant - i successfully BF my DS1 - stopped after 6 weeks due to mastitas 3 times, but was unsuccessful with DS2 as he wouldnt feed from me.

IAmOnOneBorn · 27/12/2010 13:58

Cleofartra I promise that there is a woman BFing on there because I insisted that my first attempt at BFing was included to show how normal BFing is.

girlsyearapart · 27/12/2010 15:35

Wow were you really on it? Do they show you the clips first before they are aired??
I'm sure I saw breastfeeding in it too.
Not really 'obvious' feeding though.
I didn't have a problem with the bits with the actual women giving birth on it.
It was the rubbish bits with the presenters that I didn't like.
It would be lovely to see a programme about one born at Xmas aired a few days later so it could be done in the same way as the original programme iyswim

IAmOnOneBorn · 27/12/2010 15:54

Yes I was really on it and yes I got to see rough edits of the clip first. I'm not sure how much more obvious my BFing could have been. Have you watched all the episodes yet? I would have liked to have been on the proper series with a longer film.

Oh, and I meant to say to the OP YANBU. I mainly want to hide behind a cushion when I watch it!

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