To shout at the TV whilst watching One Born at Christmas?

[thehumanpacifier]

Just feeling a bit cheated, although I know Live TV is not without problems.

It has made me a tad broody though, so must have enjoyed parts [shocked]

Just wondered your thoughts?

I too got annoyed with the skype cutting out constantly.

FWIW I know same sex couples raising children and their children are far more grounded and happy, as is my DS being raised without a father, than some famililies I know who dc's have mum and Dad around. Its great people have their opinions but IME children who experience diversity are extremly tolerant of others and none of those I know are underflourished!

hey mumbar!!

Dustycups- how old were the children when you began your relationship? How did they take to it?

"surprised at how many women are giving birth lying in bed"

what do you want them to do, birth while serving a three course meal?

6, 3 and 2! and fine although of course little one dont really understand! guess they just like seeing there mummy happy for the first time in there lives!

Do they understand the concept of 2 mummies? I mean does your partner live with you (I presume she does?)

no she doesnt! its a long complicated story! but there is no way that what happens is gonna mean my children will flourish anyless that those with a mother and father at home!

FuturePm care to elaborate?

I'm afraid I disagree with you. But best of luck with that.

Yule Tide-of course, elaborate on what?

retarded you're just lovely aren't you .

Yes, retarded, an adjective; less advanced in mental, physical, or social development than is usual for one's age.

I applied to the social development in the sense I don't know ANY gay parents.

Your next criticism?

futurePM

wtf!!! tell me what a man can give a child that a woman can not!! especailly when there is male influences in there life!

infact im confused, do you think a child would be better off with a single mum than with 2 mums!

Thanks CT, aside from the fact it's from The Times which discredits it a tad, it's interesting..so what about gay men?

Oh my goodness, I have never ever posted on a thread when it gets heated because I honestly hare bitchiness but please futurepm, do not use that word. It is terribly offensive to my son, my sister and the 400 hundred people I work with.

Oh and please do not ever attempt to fill the position your name suggests, I cannot imagine a worse role model for our population

I think if nature intended for 2 women to raise a family together (aside from natural occurences like death etc)then it would be possible for same sex couples to pro-create. It's nothing personal, just my opinion. And natures.

Almost, I applied the dictionary definition as to how it was intended. I wasn't mocking people with disabilities, that much is clear.

FuturePm, you know that you've basically said "I know nothing about it and have never given it a second's thought, but it's definitely wrong"?

The study itself was not done by the times. Google it if you wish to inform yourself - it's about time you did, really.

"Nature" also thinks that wearing clothing and eating cooked food is unnatural.

No I haven't read the scienctific opinions, as I don't value them too much. I just believe that men and women should raise children together, as was designed. Unless nature intended us to have 5 children with 5 different men then run off with a woman to raise them? If that's the case I stand corrected.

grrrrrrrrr! so cos nature didnt make it so two women could procreate it means that two women who love each other and have loads of love to give to a child should not just because they can t naturally have them together!

i challenge you to meet a lesbain couple and see the intense love between them and then tell me they shouldnt have a baby together!

I just don't think it's natural.

Future I believe you're taking the mick? If you're not then I suggest you educate yourself.

I have two wonderful mothers who have been in a loving, joy filled relationship for 32 years and my brother and I had brilliant childhoods. We both have great careers, lots of friends, own our houses, he is married with kids and I have a great fiance and am about to have a baby of my own who both my mothers will dote on. I'm not showing off, just demonstrating that I am not a damaged individual as a result of not having a father (I had wonderful male relatives in the form of my grandfathers and uncle anyway) or witnessing the 'outrage' that is a happy gay relationship on a daily basis..