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To not give my children the swine flu vaccine?

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wintersnow · 17/12/2010 16:15

I decided not to last year as I wanted to wait and see how safe it was but am reconsidering this year after several people have died. Did you give it to your children and what were your reasons to give/not give it?

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findingthepath · 17/12/2010 17:57

I had my flu jab yeasterday as i have asthma and i was told that 6 people are in ICU at our local hospital with SF. I took DH and DS (22 months) for their this afternoon. People can die from Flu it is a real threat.

The jab didn't hurt much and i have had no side effects as yet.

I would perfer to do all i can to protect my son, i still breastfeed and he is vaccinated to protect him and other children with weak immune systems.

I can undrestand why some people choose not to have jabs but all i can say is if those people died dont bitch to me as it was your decsion.

I know a 17 year old who died in 2 days from Memungitius c i sat next to him in college at the time he had a headache on Tuesday and was dead on Thursday. I bet his would have wished he had the vaccine to protect him. He has been dead for 11 years now Sad

Powcat · 17/12/2010 18:01

My 15 year old son had the vaccine for the first time this year.
Within 4 days of vaccination he was highly photophobic, couldnt tolerate light at all,exrutiating eye pain, blinding headaches dizziness, confusion, fainting and even had a seizure as the optician was trying to examine him.
This went on for 3 weeks, 5 GP appointments, 2 consultant appointments, 2 admissions to hospital and 1 ambulance ride later they tell me it was the flu vaccine and he must never ever have it again.

LadyintheRadiator · 17/12/2010 18:01

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VallhalaLalalalalalalalaaaaaa · 17/12/2010 18:02

tholeon, you're probably right. However my (admittedly entirely selfish) view is that most other people don't think like me. Most other people are happy to have all manner of dodgy, animal-tested/animal product crap injected into their children and as a result my children are safe in this largely vaccinated society.

And my priority and responsibility is to my children and not other peoples'. I'm not putting my children at the risks these vaccines carry for the good of other people.

DylthanThroughTheSnow · 17/12/2010 18:06

www.dh.gov.uk/prod_consum_dh/groups/dh_digitalassets/documents/digitalasset/dh_122921.pdf as of 7th December there have been 16 confirmed cases of sf (more are being investigated) 11 people have died 4 of whom were under 10 Sad

vinvinoveritas · 17/12/2010 18:10

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pagwatch · 17/12/2010 18:15

Finding

If one of my children died what on earth makes you think that my first instinct would be to 'bitch to you'

Really?

Do you not think that people make serious decisions with a lot of thought and sometimes a heavy heart, and that perhaps crass taunting about the potential death of their child is pretty vile.

This is such a personal issue and people have the right to chose based on their views AND their circumstances. I respect most carefully considered views, including those that disagree with me.
But these threads are wanker magnets.

VallhalaLalalalalalalalaaaaaa · 17/12/2010 18:18

"But these threads are wanker magnets."

PMSL. I'm storing that one for future use, Pagwatch.

findingthepath · 17/12/2010 18:33

That is my opioin

Its personal to me. Every pearent makes their own decsion. To not vaccinate your child puts that child and other children at risk. That is your choice.

I'm sorry for your lose.

vacinations are there to stop children from dieing. The chance of death are increased if the child gets the illness and has no protection agenst it.

Also dont call me a wanker please just because i have a different opioin to yours.

findingthepath · 17/12/2010 18:34

loss,

Sorry i'm dyslexic

LadyintheRadiator · 17/12/2010 18:40

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saggarmakersbottomknocker · 17/12/2010 18:42

My dd has had the flu vax this year which includes swine flu. Last year she had seasonal flu jab and sf jab. She has complex heart and pulmonary issues.

My thinking is that, in this case she's more likely to have a life threatening event from the disease than the vax.

I'm neither pro or anti vax; it's an individual choice that you have to make in consideration of your child's circumstances, and parents shouldn't be judged for making an informed decision either way.

TheHeathenOfSuburbia · 17/12/2010 18:45

DH and DD(3) got vaccinated at the GP's because of their asthma. My asthma isn't bad enough to qualify, apparently, so I paid for one privately (£20) to try and protect DS (11 weeks).
And also, i suppose, because I've had flu before and it was really horrible, can't imagine trying to wrangle two kids while semi-conscious in bed... I actually tried to get the vax while I was PG, but they weren't doing them then.

ArthurPewty · 17/12/2010 18:45

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howtoapproach · 17/12/2010 18:45

Just as an aside, I work for a health company and we are inundated with people wanting various vaccinations because they cannot get a certain job without them. Not Swine Flu, I admit. But the basic ones. We can't do them - but i do feel sorry for these people, who've been offered jobs but can't take them up because it's extremely difficult to find someone who will vaccinate them when they're not in the normal age range.

ArthurPewty · 17/12/2010 18:47

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saintknickerless · 17/12/2010 18:51

YABU

findingthepath · 17/12/2010 19:04

Leoniedelt - I'm glad you made the right choice for your family.

I can understand why some people do not vaccinate, medical advice or personal, religous or moral belifies.

I just dont like scaremongering and people who just can't be bothered to take their child to the doctors and the risk that is to children who can't have the jab.

If that makes sence!

I'm going to stop now before i get called vile again, i'm not trying to upset people and i think my wording could have been a lot better.

mosschops30 · 17/12/2010 19:20

if you truly believe that your breastmilk and just good luck will protect your children you are ignorant.

I would like to take you to work with me to see all the sick people, some of whom were very fit and well prior to whatever happenning.

How deluded can you be?

chocolatepuff · 17/12/2010 19:21

hi finding. do you really think people cant be bothered to vaccinate their children? i think the vast vast majority of people who dont, have thought quite alot about it -more than those who so vaccinate. I have not vaccinated my dd and have done alot of research into the issue. although i dont feel 100% sure that not vaccinating is the best answer against immunisation of disease, the arguement 'for' vaccinating wasnt good enough for me, and the risks of having the vaccine outweigh the risk of the illness in my opinion, for my child.

and thats all you can do -make the decision that is best for you and your child, and not judge anybody else!

pagwatch · 17/12/2010 19:27

Actually I apogise. I shouldn't be here.

It is aibu and it is about vaccination when I have a family history of serious health issues post vaccination.

I try to discuss this with those who wish to but the trite and nasty stuff this always descends into just frustrates me.

I would love to be able to vaccinate my children and not give it a thought and it is difficult to get sneered at or called stupid by the people who have never experienced any similar problems.

Once you factor in those who start throwing dead children into the conversation it all goes pear shaped pretty quickly.
I asked for a vaccination topic to avoid this stuff. So I should just hide this thread and should never have posted.

I will leave you all to it. Sorry folks

howtoapproach · 17/12/2010 19:28

No. but i would never think my own online searching would outweigh the knowledge of the entire health profession (professors, consultants, doctors, nurses) for the past 40 years or so. I can understand if your dc have health problems but cannot otherwise. That's just my decision.

APixieInMyTea · 17/12/2010 19:28

We don't vaccinate at all so it's a great big no to the swine flu vaccine.

Tbh even if we did vaccinate I still wouldn't give my kids the swine flu vaccine.

I got offered it both times I was pregnant. I politely declined.

tryingtobemarypoppins2 · 17/12/2010 19:33

Sorry but I am confussed. Healthy children aren't being offered it are they?

It is recommended you have a flu jab if you:

?are 65 or over,
?have a serious medical condition (see box),
?live in a residential or nursing home,
?are the main carer for an elderly or disabled person whose welfare may be at risk if you fall ill,
?are a healthcare or social care professional directly involved in patient care, or
?work with poultry.

Above is from NHS direct.

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