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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to think it's not acceptable to be this fucking rude?

116 replies

peeringintothevoid · 30/11/2010 21:21

I've never posted a fred about a fred before, but I'm burning with a sense of injustice. Hmm Grin

There's a thread that's really annoyed me, and I'm bringing it up here because I'm digressing from the OP completely (and noone's replying there Grin )

On this thread www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1094020-to-think-hubby-should-have-cut-short-his-bender/AllOnOnePage#22509239 (p5) a man posting a 'male perspetive' on a situation was called, by one poster, the following:

Stupid, lazy and selfish.
Childish.
Ignorant twat.
Cunt.
Selfish dick.
You really are quite thick, aren't you? DimGuy (a derogatory play on his username).
Gobshite.
Stupid, sexist, patronising, lazy and shite.
Utter fucking knobhead.

The (male) poster had been nothing but polite in his posts, and was trying to make a useful and respectful contribution to the thread.

Do something for me: imagine that a woman had posted a 'female perspective' on a male-dominated forum. All the other replies were from men, being supportive of the male OP. Our woman comes along and tries to describe how many but not all (he made that distinction) women might view this situation. The woman poster is called the names I listed above. I think that would strike many of you as being unreasonable and chauvinistic. AIBU?

OP posts:
Summerbird73 · 30/11/2010 22:02

seeeriously i ask again, isnt the troll 'niceguy' and not 'niceguy2'

isnt this mistoooken identity?

DancingThroughLife · 30/11/2010 22:03

Ah, but Truckulent, there was a fairly high profile troll around in Bereavement a while back. Subject matter does not a troll make. Or unmake. Whatever.

Truckulent · 30/11/2010 22:05

Well he's pretty good then he's been posting in Lone parents for years, and I can't see what his agenda is apart from perhaps not all Dads are crap and that men can be the resident parent.

peeringintothevoid · 30/11/2010 22:07

ThisIsYourSong I admit, I may have been getting slightly carried away Grin - I was remembering how he didn't respond to the baiting that was offered him. My point was, his posts weren't rude or hugely offensive (I think a lot of blokes would share the opinion that pregnancy is not an illness, and need it drilling in to them that if they felt like that, they'd probably be whimpering pathetically), and therefore that degree of contempt is unwarranted and, IMO, sexist.

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Janos · 30/11/2010 22:11

YABU, and pretty rude yourself to single out a poster in such an unpleasant way.

If you don't like what someone is saying then report them to the mods.

scallopsrgreat · 30/11/2010 22:11

Truckulent - no need to bring your issues in on this thread. Not one person apart from you has mentioned anything to do with NiceGuy being a lone parent or resentment thereof. In fact I would imagine most didn't even know that.

Niceguy was very sexist on the other thread. Basically excusing a man's behaviour because "the male mind works differently" which is complete bollocks. Spidookly wasn't the only person to notice.
I think SGB summed it up very well: "What you are saying is that, to some men, women just aren't important and that some men simply can't be bothered to think about their wives, because as far as they are concerned, the relationship and the woman exist for the man's benefit and his wishes and needs come first."

cherrybea · 30/11/2010 22:12

Just to clarify, Ski didn't call Niceguy a cunt, she said that anyone would be a cunt to not help their wife as much as possible when they were feeling ill and vulnerable.

I think she's getting a bit of a flaming here when she was responding to someone who I think was deliberately trying to wind people up and misrepresenting a lot of men.

Summerbird73 · 30/11/2010 22:13
Grin
cherrybea · 30/11/2010 22:14

Oh and I agree with her entirely :o

DancingThroughLife · 30/11/2010 22:16

I'm prepared to stand corrected, but the beareavement troll has left me bitter and rather cynical.

I'm not crying troll and I feel disappointed that I'm so wary of others now when I think there's a troll about. Anyway, I was only lurking, and this whole thing is nothing to do with me so for that reason I'm out.

DancingThroughLife · 30/11/2010 22:17

thanks Summerbird. Can we watch with binoculars until it's all calmed down? Smile

dittany · 30/11/2010 22:18

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booyhoo · 30/11/2010 22:19

i wondered that too dit.

scallopsrgreat · 30/11/2010 22:21

Me too!

peeringintothevoid · 30/11/2010 22:23

Janos I did report her.

scallopsrgreat but you're talking about your opinion and subjective interpretation of his posts - my point in this thread is that just because you disagree with someone (even if you think they're being really unreasonable), is it ok to unleash such personal venom as I've listed here?

I've called people fucking twats on threads before, IIRC, but how much this struck me as unfair has made me reconsider whether it's acceptable to do that.

OP posts:
peeringintothevoid · 30/11/2010 22:25

See I love a bit of swearing, Grin I just don't think it's acceptable to attack someone like that just because you don't agree with them (and as I interpreted it, because they're a man).

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peeringintothevoid · 30/11/2010 22:25

It's the double standards that annoy me.

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BootyMum · 30/11/2010 22:26

Have to say I agree with Spidookly.

I found Niceguy incredibly irritating, condescending and ignorant to boot.

And I also am not married to or friends with any men who are as unempathetic or oblivious to basic consideration as Niceguy seems to believe most men are.

dittany · 30/11/2010 22:28

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dittany · 30/11/2010 22:29

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scallopsrgreat · 30/11/2010 22:29

I think it was Niceguy who had double standards - one way for men to behave and another for women

Janos · 30/11/2010 22:30

peering - why you think it is acceptable to start a thread purely with the intention of drawing fire onto someone you don't agree with?

I repeat, if you have an issue with the way someone is posting then report them to the mods.

You come across as being somewhat spiteful and vindictive yourself.

peeringintothevoid · 30/11/2010 22:30

But BootyMum if you'd found a female poster to be incredibly irritating, condescending and ignorant, would you have called her the things I listed in my OP?

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DancingThroughLife · 30/11/2010 22:32

I thought Sweary Woman was a person Wink

Janos · 30/11/2010 22:33

I didn't see your earlier post peering.

So, you've reported spidookly and now started a thread with the intention of slagging her off?

Nice.