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To try and start a campaign to stop the uk release of 'A Serbian film'

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spidersandglue · 27/11/2010 20:25

I'm not suggesting anyone read the synopsis as that's disgusting enough. But I don't know how the government can allow this disgusting film to be released!

Surely this sort of film encourages paedophillia and violent rape.

There are more slaves alive now than there has been before at any time in the history of the world. The majority of this is sex trafficking.

I'm revolted that a film like this can be given even a censored release date (10th)

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otchayaniye · 29/11/2010 11:37

"read Andrea Dworkin's Intercourse"

Just because it's Andrea Dworkin, doesn't mean it makes sense.

Would you condemn Lolita in the same way?

KerryMumbles · 29/11/2010 11:39

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daftpunk · 29/11/2010 11:40

Of course not, arty films are 99% dross. They just substitute the word "arty" for "crap" - I'm just saying there have always been films pushing the shock boundaries. Soldier blue didn't have to be so graphic.

Anyway - it's the fluffy 'acceptable' films that do more harm for womankind: pretty woman for example.
A prostitute until a man came along and saved her.

Litchick · 29/11/2010 11:41

But isn't that the point?

Isn't it an allegory of how the ordinary Serbian people found themselves seduced into comitting abhorrent acts?

daftpunk · 29/11/2010 11:41

Sorry miles behind - that was in reply to Dittany

ZeroMistletoeZeroTinsel · 29/11/2010 11:42

I don't think it should be banned but for once I don't care if it does because its so awful I have no sympathy for the makers of it, I do find it pretty disturbing that someone would sit down and write the script for it. So while I'm not really in favour of banning hardly anything, I wouldn't mind at all if that was the consensus and the bbfc did decide to ban it in the end.

otchayaniye · 29/11/2010 11:43

Well, daftpunk, you could argue that Crime and Punishment (high-art by most people's metrics) also does harm to womankind as it contains the same theme.

Interestingly, there is a tradition of "rape" in the Balkans, I recall something they used to do at weddings, like a playful (I use that word very advisedly) carrying off of the bride as in a pillaging. This is from memory of something I read as part of my degree years ago so I could be wide of the mark.

SantasMooningArse · 29/11/2010 11:47

YANBU

My friend found that her 'D'H working abroad was in fact a sex trafficker and he has since been jailed- out this month, nine months. His wife and kids are too terrified to elave the family home as he will assume they grssed him up and will be living in terror with the shitface again. They tried Women's Aid but the policeman heling accidentally told the bastard convict (can you see my hate?)

He was let off the rape charges as no witnesses would go to court to testify.

I;ve seen one small snapshot of how lives are destroyed by these wicked people and have no wish to glamourise or encourage anything related at all.

KerryMumbles · 29/11/2010 11:59

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daftpunk · 29/11/2010 12:02

You don't ban it. If someone watches this film for sexual gratification, you can guarantee they're already accessing the sickest pornography they can get their hands on. It's not going to suddenly turn them into rapists - they're already lost.
Most normal people (male and female) won't go near this film - it will appeal to a select few.

otchayaniye · 29/11/2010 12:04

"people sit down and say to themselves, how can I come up with the most disturbing shite I can?"

They might do, they might not. You don't know. Ever made a film? Written a book,? been taken over by an image so powerful or a message to convey that wouldn't go away that compelled you to paint/write/compose or make a film?

Not defending these guys. I haven't seen the film and haven't a desire to. But clearly a lot more went into the process than 'thinking up the most disturbing shite'.

KerryMumbles · 29/11/2010 12:12

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daftpunk · 29/11/2010 12:22

I'll tell you what's worse than this film ( and films like it ) the competitive "l was locked in a cupboard for longer than you" misery memoirs. How sick to make money out of the abuse you suffered as a child.

Have some dignity. If you haven't got over it - go and work for a childrens charity.

NerdyFace · 29/11/2010 12:43

As awful as it sounds, the more people talk about it being vile and awful. How it's sick and should be banned...It kinda makes me WANT too watch it..Blush

Would probably be deeply traumatised if I did, but all this talk none the less makes me want too see it, for no other reason that seeing if it's as bad as everyone says!

dittany · 29/11/2010 12:58

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dittany · 29/11/2010 13:03

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nancydrewrockinaroundxmastree · 29/11/2010 13:11

"We're talking about a film that eroticises and endorses rape and which features a scene of "

According to the reports the BBFC cut the scenes that "eroticise and endorse rape". If that is correct does it not follow that the film as it now exists and will be shown does not in fact "eroticise and endorse rape"?

And does it matter if the film that will be available to view does not, even if the original did?

ChickensHaveNoMercyForTurkeys · 29/11/2010 13:18

It just sounds fucking awful, tbh. Even putting aside the morality of making such a film, why would anyone want to watch it? What is the point? It's hardly entertainment if the idea is to sicken you. It doesn't appear to be making a political or historical point. I'd be concerned about anyone who can not only concieve of such a 'story', but can then go on to get others to help them make it. It's just spreading the awful mindscape, isn't it?

dittany · 29/11/2010 13:22

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nancydrewrockinaroundxmastree · 29/11/2010 13:31

Would you like to expand on that view dittany ?

FindingMyMojo · 29/11/2010 13:35

I think in trying to bann it you will just publicise it. I'd never heard of it until I saw this thread.

dittany · 29/11/2010 13:36

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LaurieFairyonthetreeEatsCake · 29/11/2010 13:37

They had to cut the Accused as the scene where she was raped 'eroticised' it.

I still think that scene went too far after the cut and that it was designed to 'eroticise' - that is only my opinion though and the censors didn't think so or they would have cut it further.

dittany · 29/11/2010 13:42

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LadyBlaBlah · 29/11/2010 13:43

The film sounds grotesque and IMO amoral. Having read some people's reviews of the film, it sounds like it is literally psychologically disturbing people who watch it.

There is just no need.