To agree with a 15 year old questioning why the white race can’t control their alcohol intake

[cashmygold]

A very close friend of mine is a Humanities specialist in an inner-city multi-ethnic secondary school. This academic year she has been permitted to teach PSHE (Personal Social Heath Education).

Last night we had dinner at her place and she started to tell me about a conversation that was sparked by a 15year old girl of African origin in a lesson on Friday, which was about ?The effects of alcohol?.
Pupil: Why can?t the majority of the white race control themselves when it comes to alcohol.

Teacher: Can you try and expand on what your?re saying maybe give some examples.

Pupil: When I?ve watched programmes on telly documenting Brits abroad, booze Britain, cop shows etc, you always see white people drinking to the extreme and causing more work for the police, damage to council property (criminal damage, urinating in shop entrances, vomiting, fighting etc) , disturbing the peace and the occasional flash of their bums. Why can?t they handle their drink.

AIBU, because I feel that the girl highlighted some salient points which I somehow agree with. Growing up I always saw white teenagers drinking on street corners and I have never been asked by a kid of any other race to go into a shop and buy some alcohol for them.

Furthermore, when am out with my friends from various races, its always the my white counterparts who all of a sudden develop social shyness and need a drink before they can get on the dance floor or speak to the opposite sex....WHY!!!

Apparently the pupil went on to say that an elder in her community used a analogy of a werewolf to describe alcohol and white people. In the day they are normal law abiding citizens, then at night they switch into a uncontrollable wolf looking to cause devastation.

Now I know this isn?t true of all white people but does seem to be a typical feature.

[cashmygold]

Well it's clearly ludicrous to say that the majority of people in the world who have white skin have alcohol problems, and that all the people in the world who have non white skin never have alcohol problems.

What a load of tosh.

pls read my comments. I am not making this a worldwide issue regarding white. just booze britain

[tethersend]

Then why not say British?

[scottishmummy]

youre on a roll arent you.you have some brass neck

[WriterofDreams]

OP I have explained the issue with your use of the word race but you've chosen to ignore it. I and a lot of other posters agreed with you that British people do tend to have a problem with alcohol. We're not denying that at all. But if you're going to have meaningful debate about the issue focusing on white and black isn't actually going to help. Like ISNT said, it's a non question.

The more salient thing to focus on is culture. The girl you mentioned grew up in Britain but it's not her skin colour that is protecting her from becoming a binge drinker, it's her culture which is obviously a large influence on her life. The question is, what is it about her culture that encourages safe drinking or abstinence while the prevailing British culture promotes binge drinking?

We're not saying you're racist, we're saying that your terminology is sloppy and essentially meaningless.

[scottishmummy]

yes links and research from shitsville uni please

[mamadiva]

Noone would argue if you said British as I said before, not one person has disputed that.

The only thing that is being disputed is the fact that you are basically saying that ONLY WHITE PEOPLE not British, you said WHITE have drink issues.

[WhereYouLeftIt]

OP, sorry but you really are talking rubbish. Yes, Britain has a booze culture. But we are really not a patch on the Scandinavians. Or the Russians. (Yes, massively steroetyping here, I know.)

[noddyholder]

I think this is a sweeping statement and it could be seen as racist but having said that my ex partner was black and he and his brothers and friends who were black all thought that me and my white friends were 'drunks'who couldn't handle our drink and this was v common amongst his contemporaries.

[CoosAtCousCous]

I hate racists

[cashmygold]

Needafootmassage

thanks for a balance in opinion.

to many ppl on this thread looking for my blood wanting an arguement.

methinks they must have had too much alcohol last night and now the werewolf characterictics havent wore of yet





(joke)

[mamadiva]

:o Beertricks

[ISNT]

beertricks

[Serendippy]

The problem with lumping together people of a certain colour is that you often get grouped with people you really don't want to be grouped with. 'Us whites', please don't put me in the same catagory as yourself.

[Georgimama]

TBH you're lucky no one has started on your spelling and grammar. If we were just spoiling for a fight there's plenty of mileage in that.

[WhereYouLeftIt]

Georgimama, you have no idea the self-control required not to either correct or insert (sic) when I'v cut&pasted quotes from OP .

[mamadiva]

[Goblinchild]

I'm not criticising Georgimama, but I am wincing quite a lot.
'Alas poor apostrope...'

[WriterofDreams]

No one is looking for your blood OP, in fact I think people have been really measured considering. It's just frustrating that people are actually trying to agree with you while pointing out the issue they have with your post and you're not engaging with that at all.

[BonniePrinceBilly]

So just to be clear OP, you didn't mean that the majority of the white race worldwide has a drink problem?
You meant that the drink problem in britain specifically is directly attributable to white people, ie white british people?

Sooo much better.

[scottishmummy]

has any mentioned hairy hands of st claberts.father jack was right hairy meh maybe he was a werewolf

[mamadiva]

Cashmygold are you new here or are you just a cowardly namechanger? :o

[mamadiva]

Heehee father jack... drink, curtains, arse

CLASSIC :o