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To agree with a 15 year old questioning why the white race can’t control their alcohol intake

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cashmygold · 21/11/2010 10:51

A very close friend of mine is a Humanities specialist in an inner-city multi-ethnic secondary school. This academic year she has been permitted to teach PSHE (Personal Social Heath Education).

Last night we had dinner at her place and she started to tell me about a conversation that was sparked by a 15year old girl of African origin in a lesson on Friday, which was about ?The effects of alcohol?.
Pupil: Why can?t the majority of the white race control themselves when it comes to alcohol.

Teacher: Can you try and expand on what your?re saying maybe give some examples.

Pupil: When I?ve watched programmes on telly documenting Brits abroad, booze Britain, cop shows etc, you always see white people drinking to the extreme and causing more work for the police, damage to council property (criminal damage, urinating in shop entrances, vomiting, fighting etc) , disturbing the peace and the occasional flash of their bums. Why can?t they handle their drink.

AIBU, because I feel that the girl highlighted some salient points which I somehow agree with. Growing up I always saw white teenagers drinking on street corners and I have never been asked by a kid of any other race to go into a shop and buy some alcohol for them.

Furthermore, when am out with my friends from various races, its always the my white counterparts who all of a sudden develop social shyness and need a drink before they can get on the dance floor or speak to the opposite sex....WHY!!!

Apparently the pupil went on to say that an elder in her community used a analogy of a werewolf to describe alcohol and white people. In the day they are normal law abiding citizens, then at night they switch into a uncontrollable wolf looking to cause devastation.

Now I know this isn?t true of all white people but does seem to be a typical feature.

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scottishmummy · 21/11/2010 11:12

one 15yo is not representative of a whole race.are you on the wind up?trying to be provocative?

but i dont think you want the answer, i think your op drips with clichés as it is

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2shoes · 21/11/2010 11:12

see you didn't like that example yet feel it is ok to label all white people.......
odd racist thread

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cashmygold · 21/11/2010 11:13

Thankn for the comment about teacher, and sackable offence

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cashmygold · 21/11/2010 11:14

I'm not a troll i've been on this site for months

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Goblinchild · 21/11/2010 11:14

Oh, are you confused by my example of a theoretical child asking a similar question, but emphasising a different group as the focus?
Did you think I was offering a personal POV?

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ApocalypseCheese · 21/11/2010 11:14

That's like me saying all black men shag, impregnate and fuck off because ave seen it on Maury don't cha know ??

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cashmygold · 21/11/2010 11:15

This is not a race thing, so pls dont turn it into an us and them. I am white myself

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TrillianAstra · 21/11/2010 11:15

"This girl is african. dont get it mixed up with west indian absent fathers."

Then don't assume everyone who is "white" is a part of one ethnic or social grouping. That illustrates the point perfectly.

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MittzyWithTinselOnHerBittzys · 21/11/2010 11:16

I am currently fighting my son's race based generalisations based on crap he picks up from school and media.. if he came home and expressed a similar opinion about another race I would challenge him.

There is a drinking in certain aspects of society that I feel needs balancing but Hmm at this girls racist slant.

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cashmygold · 21/11/2010 11:16

see you didn't like that example yet feel it is ok to label all white people.......
odd racist thread

I didnt say all. but did say typical. Dont misinterpret what i said

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Goblinchild · 21/11/2010 11:17

'than Goblin' what?

Still puzzled by this phrase.

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fairycake123 · 21/11/2010 11:17

//This is not a race thing//

LOL. Thread title.

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scottishmummy · 21/11/2010 11:18

you made this a race issue with sweeping generalisations in op

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BeerTricksPotter · 21/11/2010 11:19

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perfumedlife · 21/11/2010 11:19

Do all Jamaican people have a love of Hashish ? I would say no and the girl is simplifying it, perhaps an age thing?

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Ormirian · 21/11/2010 11:19

Is there such a thing as a white race?

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WhereYouLeftIt · 21/11/2010 11:20

"This girl is african."

So are we to assume that she was not brought up here and views Britain with the eyes of an outsider? And that she says 'white race' when she means who she observes around her here in Britain?

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Serendippy · 21/11/2010 11:21

YABU

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cashmygold · 21/11/2010 11:21

You go to any town centre next friday night....the point will be duely illistrated

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BobMarley · 21/11/2010 11:22

Using the phrase 'wite race' is just silly and the student should have been corrected on that. As people said, if a white student would have said something similar on the 'black race' all hell would have broken loose.

However, if we are talking about the British being a bit Jekyll and Hyde when they are sober or drunk, well I agree she has a point.

But I think it is a cultural thing. British are so inhibited on a daily basis that it all comes out when they have had a few pints.

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Ormirian · 21/11/2010 11:22

I wonder if the teacher pulled the 15yr old up about her racist assumptions.

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cashmygold · 21/11/2010 11:23

you made this a race issue with sweeping generalisations in op

I didnt, I was paraphrasing and then agreed with some of the points

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Goblinchild · 21/11/2010 11:24

'I wonder if the teacher pulled the 15yr old up about her racist assumptions'

You don't pull them up, you unpick their arguments with logical questions and allow a debate to take place within the class.

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BabyDubsEverywhere · 21/11/2010 11:25

You are a troll or an idiot - I strongly suspect both!

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cashmygold · 21/11/2010 11:25

Is there such a thing as a white race?

If black is a race of ppl why isnt white.

come on are you being so ridiculous not to see white as a race. Afterall we are the human race

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