to think that having 18 children is just wrong?

[Rhinestone]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1328007/The-family-prays--gets-bigger-bigger-Meet-devoutly-Christian-Mr-Mrs-Bates-EIGHTEEN-children.html

Wrong on so many levels surely?

I don't care how many children someone has as long as they pay for them themself and don't expect my taxes to do it

One is one too many if you can not afford it.

This woman must be bloody tired though

MaD, I'm not on there, but I read of the forum. Jinger is the one most to jump ship reckon. She's often caught rolling her eyes.

Velveeta isn't food, it's related to plastic and a weird shade of orange.
Yuck.
I did once buy it, I thought it might be like cheese. I was wrong, and also I was a bit iffy (malaria, I really had it).
It turns out it's horrid, like compressed plastic with the taste of rancid vomit.
I know, I vommed quite a few times.
Velveeta is a bad substance, but even so, who needs to cook?
Just eat fruit! Or even veg!

Gosh, would you think of it!

Although it's not for me I think good luck to them.

They eat crap, no fruit or veg, none.
I'm honestly freaked out by the bad diet, over anything else.
No fruit.

I sometimes buy packaged food.
I buy tinned pineapple.
I like mango and raisins.

Ugh, but if 'Daddy', likes it, then fine to eat nasty old shit.

What is TWOP, please?

http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?s=91fc7a670ae3fcc76e542e2ecf662777&showtopic=3146312

Ooops. Meant to link more elegantly.

Another thought, though: maybe they could do a MN-meets-the-Duggars cookery special on 19 Kids and Counting? TLC could fly a group of us out to Arkansas. Perhaps with yummy Jamie Oliver as a man who cooks. Maybe he'd defraud Jana though...

Oh yeah, I would love to be part of that. I was watching a clip last night and they made chic-etti. SOme random chicken cheese pasta thing. I dont even think the chicken was real.

The girls are not allowed to stay home alone but the boys are, and they are not taught any household maintenence but the boys are. I wonder if they vote the way Daddy says too?

I thought I saw them start a veggie patch when they first moved into their big house. (shrugs)
I've clearly missed alot, the last I saw Josh and wotsername had been for a scan and found out on tv (naturally) that they were having a girl. He seemed a bit put out tbh.
I agree that Josh is an arse, he seems to be trying a bit harder to convert us all. What is with his wife too? And the dvd explaining sex before they got married?
(ah well each to their own)

I feel bad for the girls. Can I join the Free Jinger movement?
And what happened to the prem one I've read about here, is she ok?

Now that would be funny. I want to watch the episode with the sex guide (in a non pervy way I promise). Anyone know which one it is?

The sex guide... that was hours before Josh and Anna's wedding on 'A very Duggar wedding'. How was he supposed to read it all before that evening? Has anyone read the book he was given?

Josie the prem baby... it has been very, very difficult and I suspect the cameras have glssed over a lot. She's had real bowel problems and seems not really to have grown or developed much at all. Does anyone know if she's still on oxygen? Last time I saw, she was. She's only a month younger than my DD, and the difference between them makes me want to cry. I worry for her, I do.

Free Jinger is here...

Another Duggar grandbaby is on the way - it was announced in America on the Today programme.

According to the article on the Today website they claim Josie is "thriving".

Aw, and josh and Anna had a mc earlier this year.

Those who have mentioned books: Razing Ruth and No Longer Quivering, I can't find them on Amazon. Are those the exact titles?

They're blogs, not books. Linked just earlier in the thread...

No Longer Quivering and Razing Ruth - hope that helps, Ilana.

I have been reading these blogs and some of the links. Just shocking beyond belief.Some of these people are no better than the 'people' who murdered baby Peter.
[I'm not accusing the Duggars or Bates of using these methods].It's just really scary to see how religious beliefs can so easily be twisted into abuse.

JimBobs sex advice to Josh before his wedding was hilarious! He said its a bit like lego

I wonder if Josh & Anna will continue with M names?

Ha ha I cant even begin to imagine what he meant!

But I think they do use those methods. The Duggars have talked about blanket training, certainly...

If you look at how Jackson/Johannah & the younger ones behave, I think they abandoned the blanket training ....