to think that having 18 children is just wrong?

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1328007/The-family-prays--gets-bigger-bigger-Meet-devoutly-Christian-Mr-Mrs-Bates-EIGHTEEN-children.html

Wrong on so many levels surely?

kat, the older girls have finished their home ed (Apart from Joy).

theevildead - the babies are in the girls bedroom with them, in travel cots.

I saw a lot of big families like this in Ireland when I was younger. The boys would be treated like kings while the girls were always expected to look after the younger siblings and do the housework.

I know of a well-educated girl with a very physical job who goes home and has to make dinner for her poor tired farmer brothers, and they order her to make them cups of tea!

Do none of them sleep in parents rooms? That's abuse, children need sleep. If you can't get up at night you should bloody stop shaggin...that might stop a few babies too them in their room

I'm trying to work out how it's abuse

DS2 and 3 share a room, DS3 wakes up almost every night at least once a night.

I do go to him.........maybe they're go to the babies???

In my DPs family there are a few large no's of siblings - I'm always envious of how close they are and am often tempted to have a large family myself.... they all had a great childhood even if challenging, a lot better than I did!

Then I spend some time with my brother's kids and remember what hard work they are!

MaMoTTat Think for a second how many women end on this forum saying they can't handle the lack of sleep from one baby and how mad they are going.. What if you had essentially a creche in your bedroom? One wakes up they all wake up.. Must be a fucking nightmare. I bet they spend a fortune on ear plugs

that is of course assuming that they all wake up.

IME most kids who share a room (DS1 and 2 used to share before DS3 came along) either don't wake up at all, or only half wake up and then drop straight off to sleep.

I should imagine growing up in a very noisy/busy house they'll be even more likely to just sleep through it.

Hopefull fot ehri sakes, but I don't think you can compare your 2 kids sharing to what MaDuggar described.

I just wish parents took total responsibilty for the children they had. So many people on this thread have said well "they pay for them so its ok" they still aren't shouldering the burden of their massive families

The babioes stay in JimBob & Michelles room until they are weaned at 6 months old. Then they move in with their "buddy". Seeing as the parenst room is miles away from the girls room, and on another level, its pretty much assumed the girls deal with their baby bauddy.

Hopefull fot ehri sakes

translated to english

Hopefully for their sakes

There are only 3 bedrooms in the Duggar Mansion, a girls dorm, a boys dorm and the parents room.

Hairy - I answered your questions at 16:10:39.

Michelle even lived in a town 3 hours away from her other kids when Josie was born so it is obvious that the girls had to do everything.

huh - I thought we were talking about the Bates

"The couple, from Tennessee, U.S., celebrated the birth of their 18th child a month ago and are already praying for more"

Do they realise that it's not praying that caused them to keep popping out?

I've just watched MaDuggar's link - hilarious!

oops sorry MaMoTTat, I was talking about the Duggars, forgot the original link was aboutthe bates family. They do live very similarly to the Duggars though.

Its fine as long as they dont rely on state handouts to fund them, that they can support the family themselves.

it is no ones business how many children someone has so long as they are paid and cared for adequately by the parents.

having said that, i am eldest of 10 children and i would never do it to a child of mine.

ahah - I was trying to make sense of the children living in girl/boy dorms when the people in the original post currently have 5 bedrooms in their house

The Duggars built those rooms for them lol

Well, maybe. I'm guessing there was a constuction crew lurking in the background who never made it to the camera!

I kept wondering, does Tennessee not have planning laws? It seemed as though they just haphazardly decided what to build as they went along...

They were changing the plans massively even hours before building!

Wish I had 20 or more children.

I could have adopted a few more and have 30.

Stop being so bloody shitty. Its not common. But it happens.

In China they have more spice markets than is rational. But a one child policy.

You can get any spice on earth

but not a second child let alone 20

My dad was friends with 2 huge families in NZ as a child. One had 18! And the other 24!! They played football/soccer against each other plus their own refs!

They were both farming families and quite sexist, though not for religious reasons, afaik. It was just still hugely sexist in NZ then.