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to resent DP for the situation we are in?

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lola0109 · 09/11/2010 14:38

Quick back story. DP qualified in nursing in February of this year after a 3 year course, I was main breadwinner (he received bursary so contributed to bills etc). During this time DD1 was born, I had to return to work early from maternity leave due to financial constraints. DD2 arrived in Aril this year and DP struggled to find employment due to the restructure of NHS and the cap on jobs.

Eventually he found a job in private sector but was quick to realise (after about 2 days) that it wasn?t for him. He assured me though that he could stick it out for a year or until something else came along. It was good hours and very good money.

6 weeks down the line he was very miserable and actually came home from work in tears one day! I?ve never seen DP cry in the 8 years we?ve been together (except when DD?s were born). He had become very depressed in these 6 weeks and his mood was awful in the house and the time he was at home was horrendous so on that last day I asked him what he wanted to do. He said he hated it and couldn?t go back, so I agreed but on the condition I was not going back to work early this time so he would need to do everything he could to ensure mortgage/bills etc get paid.

So he has been working bank aide shifts and part time work since and about 4 weeks ago he started a new job, still not what he wants to do, not great hours, very little money so he still needs to do the bank shifts. BUT it?s a job, he has to think himself lucky as some people don?t even have that! He was fine the first week but the past 3 weeks have been the same as before, not quite as bad but all I hear when he?s at home is about how bad the workplace/staff are, how much he dislikes the job etc etc.

He is currently working up to 6 days a week, 12 hour days. So he?s not home a lot but when he is he just moans. He never sees the DD?s as he leaves at 6am and is home at 9pm, after travelling to and from work. This breaks his heart, I know this and it also upsets the DD?s.

Now, I KNOW he works hard and I KNOW he?s doing the best for his family but I just can?t take the moaning anymore!! He constantly goes on about having no money, I know this. I am stuck in most days with the DD?s as we have no petrol in the car and the weather is awful and I can?t afford to take them anywhere. We are just about keeping our heads above the water with the mortgage etc! I am doing EVERYTHING at home, but he makes things so difficult like misplacing forms that we need, forgetting peoples birthdays. He isn?t the slightest bit interested in Christmas! I?m potty training DD1 (who is a star), I?m weaning DD2 (another star). Neither are good sleepers so I?m having at the most 5 hours a night and that?s not even uninterrupted sleep!!

It came to a head last week though, I returned to work for 1 day a week, so when he came home on Wednesday he didn?t even ask about my day so I had to offer him the information and started to tell him a story, to which I got a sneer and you think your day was hard! NO IT WASN?T actually! It was fun being around adult company and not listening to moaning!!! Anyway, I was so angry as I listen to him day in day out! It?s really getting me down. A couple of nights ago he came home and went straight to bed, not because he was tired, but because he has no cigarettes left and he couldn?t sit up without them! He couldn?t sit up to spend a night with his girlfriend as he had no cigarettes!  When he got home last night I couldn?t even speak to him, I just had absolutely nothing to say!

A couple of months back DD1 ?created? a new friend called Gizmo. Gizmo goes everywhere and if DD gets into trouble ?gizmo did it?. This didn?t bother me as I had an imaginary friend as a child, who came along when my DB went to school. But yesterday when we were in the car she was playing with Gizmo and then created a new friend called ?daddy? it broke my heart!! So Gizmo and Daddy were in the car playing and being told off for fighting and then kissing each other. Poor child misses her dad so much she?s had to create a new one!! 

I don?t really know where I?m going with all this as I just need to get it out. I just feel that due to his choices the whole family is now suffering and our relationship is suffering (don?t even get me started on our sex life) and his own mental health is suffering. He is a fantastic hands on father when he is there and the girls dote on him. DD2, 7 mo, has even started saying Dada! 

I should point out that this situation couldn?t be resolved by me going back to work as my wages would then be spent on childcare. I am going back part time in January but I should also point out that I HATE my job, but I realise it?s something we have to do!

I just wish he could get a job in the field he qualified and do reasonable hours for reasonable pay to spend a reasonable amount of time at home. I?m not being unreasonable am I?

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lola0109 · 09/11/2010 14:39

Sorry that was so long and thank you for anyone who has read this. I just needed to get it off my chest. I have actually deleted a large chunk believe it or not!

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BooBooGlass · 09/11/2010 14:41

YABU. It sounds as if he is doing everythign he can to keep a job. And tbh if you think nursing will get him reasonable hours and reasonable pay you are in cloud cuckoo land

ziggyf · 09/11/2010 14:42

Sounds like he's depressed, would he go to his GP?

lola0109 · 09/11/2010 14:45

But thats the thing Booboo, he did have a job for reasonable hours and reasonable pay but he didn't like it so he quit and is now doing all the hours under the sun for less money and no satisfaction. I could cope more if he was happier when at home!

I don't like my job either. had a very bad year before going off on mat leave, with grievances and all sorts but I am here as I know I can't just walk out!

I'm trying to do my best with the girls and trying my best to keep the mood upbeat but he just twists everything into money and how we don't have any! I know this!! I am walking about with clothes with holes in them and shoes that are falling apart but I'm not moaning as I know this is the situation we're in!

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Ormirian · 09/11/2010 14:46

It sounds horrible Sad

But "I just feel that due to his choices the whole family is now suffering and our relationship is suffering " Which choices did he make that lead to this? He retrained. Good no? He had had some shit jobs that made him very unhappy. He is working now even though he hates it. It isn't his fault he couldn't get the right job - as you said it isn't a good time to be looking for work.

I felt a little like this with DH for years He trained as a teacher - all the time I was working full-time and bringing home the bacon. He qualified and didn't go into teaching. Spent years doing various jobs that paid badly but made him happy. 16yrs later he is finally teaching!

lola0109 · 09/11/2010 14:47

Ziggyf, would you believe he's a mental health nurse?? I have suggested he should speak to someone but he says he'll be fine when he gets a new job! there aren't any! :(

he had the cheek after DD1 to hand me leaflets about PND justto make sure I knew the signs. I said to him I would hope you would notice the signs!

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bigchris · 09/11/2010 14:50

He's working six days a week for god knows how many hours
give him a break!
I'd seriously consider downsizing if you can, you upping your hours, maybe you work four days and ge works four days
you'll get tax credits to help with any childcare
you gave to change things
it sounds hell

LoveRedShoes · 09/11/2010 14:50

Sounds like there are bigger problems going on in his head - he sounds quite unsatisfied and unhappy. Sometimes it comes out in other things - like no cigarettes etc....
Sometimes if people are very unhappy they can seem selfish because they become withdrawn into their own world.
At least he is still working to support the family as much as he can.

lola0109 · 09/11/2010 14:51

Ormirian, I know. I just want the moaning to stop. I think thats whats getting to me most. he had a well paid job, he wanted to quit. Fine. he's now in a very poor paid job and having to do extra shifts to subsidise. Fine, but he chose to quit the first job! I supported him but I can't handle him moaning 24/7!!!

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Ormirian · 09/11/2010 14:52

The moaning would wind me up I must admit. He needs to live with things as they are or change them.

bigchris · 09/11/2010 14:54

I would ignore the moaning and reply cheeringly upbeat 'really dp ? That's awful, did you know dd smiled today ?' etc and then move on
after all you barely see him and it can't be that bad to listen to some moaning one day a week!

LoveRedShoes · 09/11/2010 14:55

Have you asked him outright what would make him happy and stop moaning? If you could wave a wand. Is it really money?

lola0109 · 09/11/2010 15:04

Well the last time I asked him he quit his job. I'm scared to ask him again!

He seems to think I have a great social life, I think he is fed up with working all these hours and not doing anything but he's not even enjoying his time at home. I might be out the house a lot but its for our sanity when i get out and i'm usually at my mums, his mums, friends houses etc!

I definitely think he is depressed but he's not the type to let things bother him so he's just refusing to believe anything is wrong!

But there are other wee niggly things, like his graduation is tomorrow, he "forgot" to ask his mum. I said to her last week and she said oh he's not asked me and she was quite upset so I assured her the extra ticket was hers. When I mentioned it to DP he just shrugged. This seems really minor but its really not like him at all.

I mentioned about DD2 pulling herself up to stand and he was upset he missed it, so I hate telling him things. I'm definitely not mentioning the imaginary daddy!!

I think also, when DD1 was born he couldn't take time off, had about 3 days then back to studying/work. But when DD2 was born he had 6 weeks off as he wasn't working. and it was the happiest he's been in a while!

TBH DD2 arrived earlier than we had planned, took a long time to conceive DD1 so were a bit surprised by DD2, I was on the coil! So this has hit us hard as we weren't in the position we hoped. We now need to pay for double childcare when I return.

Also, I was planning on retraining as a teacher this september but I know I'll have to put this on the backburner for a while!

He does work very hard for the family, but I just want him to be happier at home!

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sparechange · 09/11/2010 15:12

Sorry, but I think YABU
You must have realised that having 2 children while he was training was going to put considerable strains on your finances, and if it was going to be that much of an issue, you could have delayed having one or more of your children until he was more established

He is working flat out in a job which isn't 100% what he wanted to do, and you are still moaning at him. No wonder he is miserable and wants an early night.

Give him a break, look at whether you get some extra hours working and be thankful for your 2 lovely star children

THK · 09/11/2010 15:15

JMO
If he's as you say a great hands on father and you enjoyed being back in the workforce would it work if you switched roles say for 6 months. You work he househusbands ?

cestlavielife · 09/11/2010 15:17

he does sound depressed.

but you can't make someone else happy.

only he can decide to be happy or not, only he can decide to take his issues in his hands or not.

but you could put an ultimatum - please go to see a counsellor/GP to talk things through.

also between you, you need to sit and find a reasonable balance - no good him working 6 days and not seeing dc is it?

my exP did the constant moaning thing. he eventaully slid into a big depresion. try adn eprsuade your P to get help now before it is too late - and also see someone yourself maybe a Relate counsellor on your own, and maybe also sit with someone to discuss finance/work etc with third party so someone is moderating the discussion?

pollyblue · 09/11/2010 15:20

One of my friends is a nurse - she now (about 5 years after qualifying) has a position she really loves and works reasonable hours that suit her. BUT, in the first years after qualifying, she worked long, often anti-social hours in positions/on wards she wasn't always happy with. It's par for the course with many careers and yes, your DH is certainly working grim hours, but maybe his expectations are just too high for someone so recently qualified and inexperienced.

pleasechange · 09/11/2010 15:21

It sounds like he's under quite a lot of pressure and stress. Did he want you to go back to work earlier? Not sure why the situation has continued yet you're not going back until Jan? (sorry if you've explained that)

lola0109 · 09/11/2010 15:23

sparechange I am not moaning at him! He is moaning at me. I am trying my best to keep upbeat, I've even offered to relocate as there seem to be more opportunities outwith Scotland for his field.

I did offer to return to work early but childcare would take my wages, I already get the childcare vouchers through my wages so can't get any benefits towards this. But we couldn't split the childcare as its shiftwork he does so its not set shifts and the bank shifts he needs to pick up as and when he can.

I applied for my taxi licence as my dad has a taxi on the road but at the moment the money in that is really shocking so I don't know if it would benefit us. I need to wait 6 weeks anyway until checks etc are done.

There is an opportunity for a better position in his workplace (more aimed at him) in January hopefully so if he was successful and got that he would be in a much better position. So we know that the financial thing is short term, hopefully.

I think he is just really scunnered, for want of a better word, that he studied really hard, degree with distinction etc and then there was the job cap and he just feels as if he is in limbo.

I just want him to, oh I don't know what I want really! I just want to go to sleep and wake up and eveything will be better!

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pleasechange · 09/11/2010 15:24

I don't understand - why would childcare eat your wages now but not in Jan?

Joolyjoolyjoo · 09/11/2010 15:27

Sounds like noone is very happy Sad Is there any chance you could do a few more hours and he could do a few less? I know it's not practical for everyone, but I know friends (who worked in the NHS) who managed to both work p/t thereby avoiding a lot of childcare costs, and who seemed to make it work really well?

I can understand that it's horrible listening to him moaning all the time, but I've been in that situation where I hated my job and felt trapped- I really couldn't think of anything else, found it hard to "let it go" once I got home- it took over my whole life, to the point where I quit without having another job to go to and instantly felt better. It is awful to spend such a large proportion of your life miserable.

kitten30 · 09/11/2010 15:27

I feel for you, sounds like you supported him for a three year course in spite of having young kids and now he has the career he wanted all he does is moan about it. Didnt he have an inclin during the training as to what it would be like, I mean its practically all practical placements! I am sorry but I would be pissed off too in your shoes. If he wasnt going to like the job he shouldnt have retrained also its always difficult in new jobs to start with esp if your newly qualified but you just get on with it! Sounds to me he is a bit selfish.

lola0109 · 09/11/2010 15:31

pollyblue I think you have hit the nail on the head. I think he was disillusioned about the whole thing. The thing is my sister and his 2 sisters are nurses. They have said this to him and my mum is a midwife, she had the same thing. Actually had to work away for a year until a position came up closer to home (not easy on my dad with 5dcs).

THK I have thought of this but I work for the local government in the construction industry and times are very hard in here too, 33 in my office and apparently 19 need to go. They are still tryinig early retirements etc but its pretty grim so I would hate to do that then neither of us have a job.

allnew its the childcare issue, I would go back but then my wages are just on childcare. I am back a day a week just now, Keeping In Touch days or something and that day the girls are in nursery and I walk away with £6 after I pay their fees.

When DD1 was born Mil looked after her 3 days and I returned to work full time, nursery 2 days but since then my SIL's have had 3 dc's between them and we can't count on her anymore. that sounds a bit ungrateful, but YKWIN, and SIL's work shifts so again you can't plan them too much in advance.

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sparechange · 09/11/2010 15:32

Would it be possible to get your mum or dad to chip in with childcare?

I'm sorry it is so rubbish. I know what it is like to squeeze your eyes shut and hope and wish it will all be better when you open them, but it never works when I try it Sad

I really it hope it all works out for both of you, but snipping at each other won't help that happen.
I say this in my position of queen of stating the flippin' obvious...

lola0109 · 09/11/2010 15:32

Soory Xpost allnew they will eat them in january too but I need to return to work, for at least 3 months or pay back maternity pay.

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