to not want DD to read Twilight..

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DD2 has been asking for me to buy her the Twilight books for some weeks since her friends are reading them, but tbh, I really don't want her to read this.

I decided to see what it was about though when I searched here a few weeks ago and discovered fans of the series called themselves twilight sluts, I immediately thought 'Hell no!' and left it at that.

DD2s friends gave her a book today and I banned Twilight from the house .
Thinking now I might have overreacted, and really need to see exactly what this book is about.
Advice please?

How old is she?

Just read it yourself first. It is garbage, but unlikely to damage her.

Personaly, I think they're good. There's nothing bad in them, within the context that its all about vampires!

Yes, how old ? They are very very boring.

oops sorry, missed an 'l' there

They're quite sweet in that they hit the spot for romantic girls hitting puberty, and I suppose its quite ethical that the lead character really pushes for marriage as the 'right thing' to do before he turns her into a vampire too and they have their vampire life!

She's 12.
Think maybe I'll have DH proof read if they're boring.
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The Twisluts AFAIK are into 'fanfic' ie when people write their own pervy alternative stories based on the series. This does not reflect the content of the original books which are fairly innocuous - sexual stuff is alluded to but not described IYSWIM. Have a quick read and you will probably feel fine about it.

There's nothing in there I'd worry about a 12 year old reading... In fact your attitude to it is probably going to make her want to read it even more.

There are fanatics for most things popular but reading a book won't make her one of them automatically!

They are trashy - but a lot better than a lot of the teen lit out there. If you are concerned about any "issues" then use it as a jump off point to dicuss relationships/goulies/ the occult or whatever it is you don't like.

TBH you did over-react, your dd is probably thinking "my goodness, it must be worth reading...I will read it in my lunch breaks"

YANBU at all, the books are awful misogynist crap, all about how there's nothing more romantic than an abusive, controlling stalker, that's what every girl really wants.
However, banning them is only going to make them more appealing to her. You could try to steer her towards Charlaine Harris or Laurell Hamilton instead - the early LKH Anita Blake stories don't have much kinky sex in them, though the later ones are way too much for a young teenager...Kelley Armstrong might be better.
That's the maddening thing about the whole Twishit phenomenon, that a lot of the other 'paranormal romance' authors' books have seriously kick-arse heroines who actually do stuff, as well as interesting plots.

I was reading my parents bookshelf of modern classics by the time I was 12. Didn't do me any harm and certainly gave me broad general knowledge!
Twilight is not a modern classic, but it's important for teens to be able to have the same conversational currency as their peers.

It's no worse than watching Neighbours or something.

Oh dear. Abusive, controlling stalker?
I was hoping that my SIL was joking when she said it was about a pensioner breaking into someones house and watching their teenage daughter sleep.
A very thorough proof read is due, I think!
Will try and distract her from Twilight in the mean time, the movies are rated PG-13 so can't be as bad as I'm thinking.

SGB that is a very good point

The film is predictable, bland and 2 dimensional, but DD1 (9) loves it.

The bloke is nice looking I suppose, and the mumbling girl is OK, but it's hardly going to corrupt a 12 YO.

I've bought the first book for her for Christmas, so she can bore herself to death with it.

I agree with SGB. The Charlaine Harris ones would be a better choice.

I saw an episode of Supernatural the other day which concerned Twilight fans. Dean picked up a copy of a Twilight type book and said 'But why is he watching her sleep? How is that not rapey?'

MillyR I watched that Supernatural episode and it was fab!

Don't think the practice of banning books is a good one IMO.

Whats the worry with Twilight exactly?

All sorts of porn got smuggled into secondary school as I remember.Jackie Collins "Lace" was the big read as a teenager.

I assumed that episode of supernatural was written by Sera Gamble, but when I checked it was written by a man.

I don't think Twilight is porn, but then I don't think that the sexual content of a book is the most useful measure for judging whether or not a 12 year old should read it.

How you convince a 12 year old not to read book is difficult, and banning them obviously will not work.

There is nothing porntastic in Twilight - the last book hints at it but not explicit.

As long as you sit her down and explain that Edward is not perfect and pick out his flaws then she will be fine to read it.

You should read it first so you know what to expect.

I am a huge Twilight fan (well the fanfic really).

MillyR - loved how in the club scene it was all quotes from Twilight :)

My DD is 10 and has read the whole series.

I think you have overreacted a little bit.
How about you read them for yourself and see how YOU feel after that. Your DH may have a completely different view on the stories than you.
I read all of the books before my DD because I wasnt sure. I thought they were gripping and exciting. BUT massive works of fiction.
Yes there are lots of other authors who write better and more current but that doesnt change the fact that it is an easy first step into adult literature.

I really dont understand the rapey comment at all. That is an adult putting their twisted mind onto what is meant to be a tender romantic action by a besotted boy. Who happens to be a vampire.
Seriously it is about vampires and werewovles and you have a problem with a boy watching a girl sleep?????

Just say no - Bella is a wimp and Edward is, yes, a misogynist. I know as teens we read all kinds of trash but it might put her off...I read The Rachel Papers before I had a boyfriend and that made me think all boys were sex-mad chauvinists.

It's not porn it's abstinence porn. The girl wants to but the boy wants to wait until marriage and is worried he'll kill her. It's very religious undertones and that was the only thing that worried me.
I just think youy need to read a broad spectrum of stuff and discuss it with other people.
Just because the Charleine Harris books contain no conscience shagging (not that pornagraphic) doesn't mean they're of any literary merit, but they're enjoyable fluff.
I spent a lot of my teens yearning for unobtainable boys so can relate to that bit

I'd let her read them.

Dd2 and her friends call themselves Twerds.

You are over-reacting

I don't think the supernatural content matters in the slightest. DD watches Buffy the Vampire Slayer and how one should interact with supernatural creatures is of no real consequence as they are pretend.

What does matter in Twilight is that Edward is very controlling. What bothered me more was the bit in the second film where a woman chooses to stay with one of the werewolves because she loves him, even though he has attacked her and left her with permanent facial scarring.

Abusive relationships where men (like Edward) control, stalk and curtail the freedom of women or where men (like the werwolf) attack women are a risk in real life, and I don't think 12 year olds should be reading romantic versions of this.

I don't think it is tender or romantic to break into someone's house while they were asleep and watch them, particularly if you admit to having a desire to kill them that you are fighting to control.

But it is obviously a matter of personal taste.