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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to want my sister to understand?

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casualmnetter · 27/10/2010 21:25

I've name changed for this cos I'm a coward! My sis and her husband are fairly well off, they have a big house although there's only 2 of them and 2 little puppies. Me, dh and 2 dc's aged 1 and 2.5 went to visit for the weekend and at the mo, dh and I are just trying to cope with 2 little ones and working etc etc. Anyway, we left a number of nappies in nappy bags on the front door step to be put into the bin by anyone who happened to have shoes on when leaving through the front door, we didn't communicate this, we just assumed that people would do it to help (as we would do if we had our shoes on). However, on Saturday night I had bathed DD and taken her downstairs to grandma who was also staying whilst DH bathed DS. When I cam downstairs I had a nappy in a nappy bag in my hand to put outside but DH shouted for bath toys and I left the nappy bag with nappy on the sideboard in the hall whilst I ran upstairs with the bath toys. Whilst upstairs I heard my sisters husband complaining to my mum 'It's getting worse' I had no idea what he was referring to but was aware that my mum was jumpy (I should add that my mum is very anxious and old) I asked mum what was going on (innocently thinking that sister's husband was referring to a leak in a pipe or something) mum refused to tell me for a while but eventually said it was the nappies and that we should have put them in the bin. I promptly went to speak to sister's husband and said that I understood he was unhappy about me leaving nappies on the doorstep and I was sorry but I had hoped that people would help us out by putting them in the bin when they go out. Sister's husbnd said that we should no better. I said that I think he should have told me if he had a problem and not involve my aged mum with anxiety issues. He said that it was wrong that I did it. he did not give any explanation as to why he involved my poor mum. I could go on but won't! What do people think of this? AIBU leaving nappy bags on the front doorstep? Should we support each other as a family?

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StewieGriffinsMom · 27/10/2010 21:39

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notsocrates · 27/10/2010 21:40

Sorry, I also think YABU. Yes, it is difficult to those without children yet to appreciate how hard it is BUT they are YOUR DCs and not theirs.

I was horrified when my darling sister first came to stay with me with babies (I had none at that point) and proceeded to change a very messy nappy on our best Chinese silk rug!!!! I had a little more sympathy after I had my own but still believe you have to respect other people's houses and not leave dirty nappies around, even on the front doorstep. It's not the worst crime in the world and you and your DH are only just coping so I can see why it happened but an apology and better manners in the future would not go amiss.

Having said that, you could also have a heart to heart about what hard work little children are and how very much you would appreciate, say, them taking the DC out for a walk, or playing with them whilst you bathe, or whatever would help you whilst letting them have a nice time together.

casualmnetter · 27/10/2010 21:41

Ok ok I get it. thanks for your honest thoughts on this. It's not a joke and I have apologised and acknowledged I was wrong. However, my issue was that they upset my mum. Don't you think they should have spoken to me rather than my poor mum who has got really upset?
Also they are far from perfect and I do have a relatively disfunctional family and when my sis and husband say they are going to visit us, they turn up 3 or 4 hours late or not at all with no explanation. I kind of thought, ok so we deal with your weirdisms and you can deal with ours. Wrong I guess?

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GeorgeOsborne · 27/10/2010 21:41

He's right you know, it was just wrong that you did it. I think when you are in the trenches with small dc you can forget that other people don't live in the same way. Just phone him up and say you are really sorry, you know it's not on. He will prob moan on a bit, but just take it, and keep saying you're sorry and that you've spent so long with small children you've forgotten how to behave Wink.

casualmnetter · 27/10/2010 21:42

Notsocrates thanks very much. Yes you're right - we're wrong. I did try to explain that I was sorry but they wouldn't accept

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wouldliketoknow · 27/10/2010 21:43

i go to stay with family, i don't leave nappies lying around, if i need any sort of help, i ask.
it isn't hard: hey guys, can you put the nappies out when you go out? thanks.
yabvu.

StewieGriffinsMom · 27/10/2010 21:43

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casualmnetter · 27/10/2010 21:44

Thanks George. I shall phone him and apologise... again..

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onepieceoflollipop · 27/10/2010 21:44

And good on you for coming back and agreeing you were wrong. Also sympathy re the dysfunctional/difficult relatives.

Unfortunately some of them with not-so-nice attitude themselves are significantly less tolerant when others make a mistake.

If you have apologised then leave it. :)

pastaplease · 27/10/2010 21:44

YABU. Yuck! I can't believe you left nappies on someone's doorstep, let alone on their furniture!

That's really very rude of you, I'm afraid!

casualmnetter · 27/10/2010 21:45

Ok. I was wrong and I have forgotten how to behave - eek!

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GeorgeOsborne · 27/10/2010 21:46

Oh cross posts, glad you've come back.

Yes, should have spoken to you directly, but it shouldn't have happened in first place, best let it go. If you tell your mum you've apologised to dsis and bil, am sure all will be fine.

onepieceoflollipop · 27/10/2010 21:46

OP has now put her hands up three times at least admitted she was wrong at

21:41
21:42
and 21:45

Just saying. Wink

OldLadyKnowsNothing · 27/10/2010 21:47

casualmnetter, it is in the nature of MN that people will only read your original post, and not the bits where you've said you've apologised, so expect lots of YABUs still. Grin

You've said sorry. Now let it go. :)

GibbonWithAnAppleBobbingBibOn · 27/10/2010 21:48

Is empress Reality?

Comments and links uncalled for imo.

OP - it really wouldn't have taken much to put the nappies in the bin. I would not be at all impressed if someone did this in my house.
Agree though he should not have involved your mother.

onepieceoflollipop · 27/10/2010 21:49

OldLady I am hoping that some of them may read your post, and mine before it and this might cut down some of the YABUs. :)

HumphreyCobbler · 27/10/2010 21:49

I wouldn't leave nappies lying around in someone elses house either. But I think the rest of the family should just relax a bit too. It is hardly the crime of the century. Stressing out everyone over such a trivial things seems a little over the top.

casualmnetter · 27/10/2010 21:49

Thanks lollipop. Yes, I've been wrong and I admit it. My Bil is very annoying though. I will apologise to him although he is a pompous git....Grin

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MadamDeathstare · 27/10/2010 21:50

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Carrie06 · 27/10/2010 21:50

At least they were in nappy sacks! They should have been grateful for that Grin

Jux · 27/10/2010 21:50

~Why can't you pop outside without shoes? I often do it; in fact every bin night you'll find me carrying baqgs outside to put in the bins. I hardly ever have shoes on. I've had wet socks and wet feet. but surprisingly enough I've found they dry quite quickly.

YABVVVVU. Apologise and don't do it again.

GeorgeOsborne · 27/10/2010 21:51

You sound like a Good Egg, casual. (say in best Eton voice, please)

Beth24 · 27/10/2010 21:52

OOOOh....YABVU! I have little ones and so understand nappies etc, but if you had done any of those things in my house, family or not I would have been very unhappy about it. I would not have done the passive aggressive thing mind - it would have been a very clear "Oi - what the bleeding hell are you doing leaving dirty nappy bags on the front door step for??? You need to move these now!!" I agree with others a bloody big apology along the lines of flowers is needed here. Everyone else has children and is busy and still do not leave nappy sacks laying around on their own door step... let alone someone else's!! And as for the sideboard bit...... well that is beyond my understanding... you simply reply to DH - "Just a minute, I will put this nappy sack in the outside bin, wash my hands and then I will be right back up with the toys".

BIL should not have involved you Mum - he was wrong there - he should have said something directly - well actually no he shouldn't have had to - because the situation should not have arisen in the first place....

CurlyhairedAssassin · 27/10/2010 21:52

You MUST know you ABU, surely!

It's just so wierd to think it's acceptable to assume that your hosts will pick up after your children's dirty and wet nappies. I would even have been a bit Hmm if you'd have broached the subject first and said to them that you hoped they didn't mind but you've chucked the nappies on the doorstep for now until later.

You were GUESTS in their house, and you leave rubbish lying around it?!

My mum minds my niece a few days a week and sometimes visits our house with her. It winds me up cos she still does a few shitty nappies a day despite being almost 3 and my mum just chucks the nappy sacks in the porch. Our main bin is right outside the porch - can't she open the porch door and sling it into the bin? It STINKS the whole porch out!! Actually, when mine were little, I used to run upstairs with the nappy and empty the poo down the toilet (if it wasn't squished everywhere) before putting nappy sack straight into outside bin, otherwise it stank the outside bin out too.

I can only think it's sheer laziness not to dispose of nappies properly immediately. I mean, maybe if there's 2 foot of snow outside and your outside bin is right at the end of the drive, then you'd have a case, but otherwise, especially as guests, you were BVVVVVU!

hambo · 27/10/2010 21:53

I dont think you were unreasonable at all. I leave nappies outside on the door all the time for the first person with the time/shoes to deal with. Also, referring to leaving on the sideboard in a bag...not the end of the world. I think he is being a bit precious.

Also, don't listen to everyone on here who said you were gross. I think some people are weirdly clean. I bet some here are neat freaks.

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