to think schoolgirls shouldn't wear short skirts?

[cruelladepoppins]

I mean really short, barely bum-covering, as I saw at our local senior school open day yesterday evening?

It was just indecent. Even with thick tights. Do the boys (and teachers) just look in another direction?

How do the girls run around, bend to pick something up etc?

I was talking to the mum of one of them, and she says she's dreading when they do their work experience this year, she just can't get her DD to understand a pelmet might not be appropriate for a workplace. They think it's OK because everyone wears them to school. I'm not kidding, I didn't see a single knee-length skirt, nor even a just-above-the-knee one.

I'm the mother of boys (oh-oh) - any mothers of girls out there care to defend the teeny-skirt idea?

nods vigorously in agreement with Morloth

Dd wears a school skirt which is just above the knee, perfectly acceptable, and she looks very smart. I know however that she rolls her skirt up sometimes (not hugely though, I have seen her do it and told her off) to fit in. She knows that if she gets told off for it at school I will side with the school and she will take the punishment.

I do think she's only doing this to fit in, not to impress any boy in particular (the boy she does like does not go to her school!). She does very well at school, but just wants to try and look more grown up. All pretty standard stuff I think. Boundaries are there to be tested after all.

wow, that bold stuff works far too well....

My dd 8 goes to the local juniors which happens to be right next to the comp some of the girls look like tarts with their skirts literally only just covering their arses and heroin chic make up.The boys cannot even have a shirt untucked but thats another point. My dd's friends have started to roll up their skirts i have noticed. Whst a shame. I noticed dd picking out the shortest school skirt she had the other day-it went into the charity bag the next day.

Agree with Morloth and Jenai.

And pmsl at the charitable mention of tights-woman's nice boots.

If the words that spring into your head when seeing thriteen-year-old girls are 'sluts' and 'hookers', I think you need to take a good, hard look at yourself.

They are naive children, and they need guidance - not censure.

Agree re universal trouser-rule, too.

Its an important lesson to learn how to dress appropriately. I dress very um individually shall we say, although not quite as much at the moment cos 6 months pg.
I do know tho that i cant wear certain things to work or at least when i have a meeting or suchlike i do tone it down.

I am very jealous of anyone who can wear ashort skirt at the mo as i have the legs of hulk hogan :o

Culottes - the drabbest, frumpiest garment in creation, and impossible to roll up. That's what they need.

They really were very nice though, kind of a dusky pink kidskin fabric, solid square heel (only about an inch), came to just below the knee with laces up the outside.

Perhaps she didn't want her clothes distracting from her boots, so decided not to wear too many?

There's a woman I see on the school run who often wears leggings - something I wear pretty much every day, although I wear mine with an arse covering top/tunic/long shirt. Thing is, her leggings are really quite thin so I am able to gawp at the white knickers she wears under them as we trudge back up the hill.

I've not really noticed her boots...

Like these but pink.

Perhaps it is the knickers you are supposed to notice Jenai?

I saw someone wearing not so opaque tights and a top yesterday! Must be the new look, think I'll pass on it myself.

TBH, does the wearing of short skirts actually cause harm to anyone?

Well my Mum used to to tell me I would get piles.

hahaha there is a woman at our school who does just that. Nice thin threadbare leggings with a short t shirt or jumper. Nobody could look good in that surely?
I feel like shaking her and screaming "get some longer tops"
I would only put leggings on my wrestler legs if i had a long dress and high boots as i look like i am looking in the funny mirrors at the fair.
Please tell me it will go after the birth.

Surely you remember being a teenage girl?

I saw a poor frumpy girl walking home from school,nit long after I had DD. I swore that I would never make my daughter wear stuff that was so far opposite to what all the others were wearing. I will, instead, send her to a school where all the girls have to wear frumpy skirts and let her get on with rolling up her skirt and being punished for it. :o

But they look like muti-pack cotton briefs!

I do like those boots. Lovely.

Maim our sons need to be protected from them. Or something

Oh oh oh! I have been harmed by a mini skirt! The time I got sunburnt on the back of my thighs, having passed out with a hangover in the park! I was 25 at the time, iirc. I'm class, me

quite right too soupy

Oh yes, pile. My mum tried that line on me, too.

I'm prepared to be flamed on this but some of the posts on this thread are deluded and naieve in the extreme.

It is you the mothers of the girls that are wearing the short skirts and unbuttoned blouses that are the problem here. Not your girls. It is you who allow your girls to wear their school uniform that way and that ultimately put pressure on other girls to copy them. It is you that do not back up the school policy.

It is said that most people (male or female) for an instant impression of someone within 30 seconds of meeting them. I'll tell you exactly what I think when I see some of the 6th form girls at DSs school wearing something more appropriate for a nightclub. My first thought is that they are not serious players and did not come to school with a serious intention to learn.

Women have a big enough problem in business being taken seriously and allowing girls to think that going to school (or work) dressed as if they are gong to a night club is doing them a massive diservice. Girls need to learn that dressing modestly, professionally and smartly is an important part of being taken seriously.

I extend that message to older womn who work as well. Dress as if you have a serious intent and people will take you seriously. Dress as if you dont care or that your mind is elsewere and you will not be taken seriously.

Do you want your girls to be taken seriously?

Feels like a high level of hypocrisy on here

I was in school in the early 70s and we all did exactly what is being mentioned here. I expect most peeps doing the complaining did as well!!

C'mon on let's have some honesty here

at Soupy. That's what I did. DD's school is gloriously frumpy.

Been a teenage girl then BeenBeta?

They are kids doing what kids do, pissing off the adults around them. I have seen photos of my Mum from back in the 50s. Her skirts were daringly low, her shirts were cut high and often unbuttoned etc. There is no difference between then and now except what pisses the adults off has changed slightly.

For all my pushing it as a teenager, I have a successful career and a very stable life, when I see teenagers doing this stuff I figure they will grow out of it, just as we did.

I would harm other peoples eyes if i wore a short skirt at the moment.
I was a very short skirted teen yes. I used to go into the phone box opposite my school to change or apply thick black khol liner.I thought i was very cool.I asked my mum if i could dye mt hair black she said no,i did it anyway and got it on the carpet. Mum wasand more so when i told her it would wash out in 6-8 weeks.
I am going to have a terrible teen daughter aren't i?

My mother once forgot to wear a skirt to school when she was a secondary school teacher, and spent the day teaching wearing her coat (which was, fortunately, long).

I didn't do it to rebel against my parents, but to fit in with the current norm which was punkslut hooker look. My mum never said a word, as I don't to my dc, I say, it's your hair/face/body etc, but it's quite likely that people will think x y or z, however that's up to you, and let them decide.

But all the rebelling etc arguments are disingenuous and irrelevant. The point is that we all know that from Page 3 onwards, women are seen in terms of their bodies. Let's not pretend otherwise. If you watch the music channel with the naked lovelies writing about while the men wea suits/jeans, the disparity is alarming and obvious.

Even my 13 yr old ds can see it for what it is, look, mum, he says, boys like looking at girls' breasts. That's why those women aren't wearing much.

The girls wearing nothing to school are simply buying into this culture, and while boys are educated, covertly if not overtly, to think that women are all about their bodies, as sexily presented as possible, then the clothes they don't wear reinforce this opinion and ensure that girls continue to be judged and treated on physicality.

This is NOT a good thing.

Morloth - no I have not been a teenage girl but there is a girl's school in my town that has a draconian dress code and the girls are always incredibly well turned out and have absolutley identical uniform on which is very smart. They are a complete contrast to the girls at DSs mixed school.

Uniform can be imposed and enforced if parents and school want it to be.

Why is it up to girls/women to change what they wear and not up to society to change?