to think schoolgirls shouldn't wear short skirts?

[cruelladepoppins]

I mean really short, barely bum-covering, as I saw at our local senior school open day yesterday evening?

It was just indecent. Even with thick tights. Do the boys (and teachers) just look in another direction?

How do the girls run around, bend to pick something up etc?

I was talking to the mum of one of them, and she says she's dreading when they do their work experience this year, she just can't get her DD to understand a pelmet might not be appropriate for a workplace. They think it's OK because everyone wears them to school. I'm not kidding, I didn't see a single knee-length skirt, nor even a just-above-the-knee one.

I'm the mother of boys (oh-oh) - any mothers of girls out there care to defend the teeny-skirt idea?

It's always been this way.its not a new trend

Im a teacher and at the start of every lesson I make all the girls unroll their skirts at the waist if they are rolled up and tuck their shirts in etc !! ( they prob hate me for it, !!)

My DD's school have banned the short, tight, jersey skirts. The local school still wear them and they look bloody awful. Having said that my DD has a pleated skirt and she still rolls it up the moment she leaves the house. Her Deputy Head gave DD a lunchtime detention the other day because her skirt was too short according to the ruler measurements. We had a phonecall about providing our DD with a more appropriate longer skirt for school. I did point out that if the Deputy Head had got my DD to unroll the skirt then it would have reached my DD's knees!

and I bet they just roll them back up at break

Its really hard to find a decent length skirt for a tall girl.

DD is 5ft 5 and only 12 so unless she gets long skirts which she really doesn't like then all of her skirts are shorter than I'd like.

On my way to work I drive past the local grammer that lots of folks the area aspire to getting into in our area. Luckily I live just across the border in the next county so my sons won't be going there. THe boys all look very smart in their shirts, ties and blazers, but the GIRLS, my GOD. SLAPPERS OR WHAT??? The shortest of short skirts, WAY too much make-up, the god awful dead straight yellow hair that teens seem to want these days. My boys will def be going to an ALL boy school if that is what girls are allowed to go to school like nowadays. I would have not been allowed through the gates of my school looking like them!! Sorry I just think they look like hookers!

Cory - I feel your pain! I have a tall 13 year old dd and have had the school send me a letter about her skirt. It is an M&S age 14 school skirt, not a 'fashion' skirt, yet it is still deemed too short.
I have now given up trying to find a skirt long enough to reach her knees and she now wears her skin tight, low-cut 'Miss Sexy' trousers that are, apparently, perfectly acceptable to the school.

Around here they mostly seem to be mid-thigh but not bottom-skimming.

A local secondary made headline news not long ago when they decided tan skirts altogether.
All girls now wear trousers.

Ah come on! Teens will always adapt the uniform in whatever way they can and you can buy the most suitable skirt in the world, it's only going to get hoicked up the minute they are out of sight! lighten up.DD2 is 17 and wears a teensy skirt with thick black tights and the tie yanked down to the belly-button. I have chosen to be more concerned over her grades and studies, than an inch or two of skirt. Not worth the hassle..yeah, the skirt's too short IMO but exam results were good, DD2 is popular, a school prefect and very involved in things like choir, yearbook and buddying younger pupils.
There are bigger things to worry about - literally

Decided to ban, that is!

BTW I used to roll my skirt up too but I have turned out ok!

slightly different but last year ds shared one of his lessons with girls from neighbouring all girls grammar.

after the first half term the BOYs asked the teacher to ask the girls to button up their shirts - said they did not know where to look. This is 18 year old boys- who are these girls trying to impress?

DD's school has a specific skirt- can only buy from one stockist.
And it only comes in one length- so 5 foot 10 inch leggy 14 year old dd regularly gets pulled up in school and told to roll her skirt down....oh if only she could!!!

cruelladepoppins - you make a very good point about the work experience.

DW is absolutely incenced by the way the 6th form girls dress at the senior school DSs Prep is attached to. Her argument is that girls who dress that way at school will carry it into the workplace and quite simply will not be taken seriously. They need to be told but the school seem oblivious and it is a private school. She asks a simple question. What do you want your boss to value you for, your intellect and ability or your body?

It has now crept down to the 5th form with a girl turning up in a micro short skirt and layers of dangly beads to her navel.

Repeatedly sending them home is the only answer until parents bcome so annoyed they crack down. It can be done if school and parent reinforces each other and I GUARANTEE it will stop inside a fortnight.

I left school 5 years ago, and teachers were always moaning at me about my skirt. It was short and if I had my shirt untucked you could barely even see my skirt, but I wore tights as well. However, it did me no harm, i'm certainly not a hooker, that's just what teenage girls do...they are getting to the age where they want boys to notice them now!

Yeah - sure we all tried it , but in my day the teachers made us wear the uniform properly. I remember one girl who had naturally pinkish eyelids, being sent to the loos to scrub off the 'make-up' Poor thing.

I think teachers have given up and now have to 'pick their battles'. All down to the general undermining of teachers authority over the kids think.

I live opposite a school and regularly see girls walking out with skirts shorter than blazers!! barely covering their arse...and some fairly substantial arse's there!

wouldn't have got away with it in my day!

marge2 ...calling teenage girls those sort of names is just wrong imo I certainly hope you are not teaching your boys that attitude

But marge they teachers should spend their time on other things rather than worrying about how short skirts are, and make up is none of their business if you ask me! My school had no problem with make up though, thankfully.

As a mature student I realised short skirts were currently seriously short when on a Summer study trip. One of my fellow students was basically flashing her arse down Oxford street, didn't seem to give a damn that her tutor was walking right behind. And I'm not being awful, well ok I am, but she was hardly gifted in the shapely thigh/ buttock dept...(not just indecent but v. unattractive) Ah the things you do when young!

Sofakitten, at my 6th form we all had to wear suits :)

I find it most odd that some 6th formers have to wear suits

No my sons are not in the car with me on the way to work and they don;t read Mumsnet. Of course I am not 'teaching' them that attitude. But in my opinion that's what those girls look like.

Yes sadly these days teachers have no time to make the kids stick to the rules re uniform.

I do think it's important for parents/teachers to help kids understand that they live in a society full of people who are outside their peer group. i.e future bosses, people walking past them in the street, disapproving old bags like me etc. Kids these days are far more absorbed in their own world that we used to be. In my day we had just one TV in the house ( gasp!) We only saw our friends at school, no facebook, no mobiles. They are so isolated in their own llttle 'teen world' nowadays that they have absolutely no concept that other people may look at them and think what I think.

My DH went to grammar school and he had to wear a suit to 6th form, they call it 'business dress' don't they!? Our school didn't even have blazers! I'd be a bit annoyed if I had to wear a uniform in 6th Form, but I went to college so obviously could just wear whatever.