to think schoolgirls shouldn't wear short skirts?

[cruelladepoppins]

I mean really short, barely bum-covering, as I saw at our local senior school open day yesterday evening?

It was just indecent. Even with thick tights. Do the boys (and teachers) just look in another direction?

How do the girls run around, bend to pick something up etc?

I was talking to the mum of one of them, and she says she's dreading when they do their work experience this year, she just can't get her DD to understand a pelmet might not be appropriate for a workplace. They think it's OK because everyone wears them to school. I'm not kidding, I didn't see a single knee-length skirt, nor even a just-above-the-knee one.

I'm the mother of boys (oh-oh) - any mothers of girls out there care to defend the teeny-skirt idea?

At ds's school the girls wear the bum-freezer skirts, and the fashion at the moment appears to be to wear artfully-laddered tights with them and thoroughly-wrecked ballet pumps. They look... idiotic.

Ah, yes, the days when we had to kneel down in a row at school and the deputy head went along with a yardstick to ensure that no-one's skirt was more than 1cm above the floor. Shoes had to have a maximum 2cm heel. In came hobble skirts and desert boots. The old guard staff were beside themselves. Girls were set to work making themselves A-line skirts in needlework, but the problem of how to ban flat shoes was most vexing.

Oh, those old days gramercy :)

I think that was the point Bunty, I used to wear them with ridiculous doc martins as well and as it was Oz, no tights. We used to unbutton the bottoms of our shirts as well and tie them. Or if a t-shirt pull the front up and under the neck so it was just covering boobs.

I still have my docs.

We thought we looked great!

morloth I had forgotten that, we used to unbutton shirts and tie the bottom corners too! But only on a Saturday for goodness sake.

As soon as out of sight of home/school.

I expect you did look great.
More of a pasty look in UK though, except for 1976 which was a wonderful summer.

We went to look around a local Catholic school recently and . So much make-up and so many legs on show - ewwww. Not letting them near my pfb son!

LOL Mudandmayhem I have sons now and will be warning them about girls like me.

I never did get into any real trouble though.

what on earth is a pelmet?

I just searched for it on google images and it came up with curtains?

cumbria, you see the kind of frill/fabric covered bit at the top of the curtains? It's like that -- basically a decorative frill at the bottom of a shirt or jacket. I.e. not supposed to be a practical form of arse-covering any more than the curtain-related pelmet is a practical form of window-covering.

If people are going to get obsessed with skirt lengths I'd suggest schools insist on them wearing trousers.

Or ditch uniform altogether - I bet most girls would fairly swiftly end up wearing jeans and similar (just like they do at FE colleges).

I hate all this talk of hookers and sluts. Fucking vile, imo. There isn't a single item of clothing that signifies that a woman or a girl are sexually available.

Crikey riven so expensive when they are still growing too.

Forgot to add one of these:

Burka's?

Burkas?

there does seem to be an odd disconnect between recounting past uniform alterations (harmless fun,turned out alright etc) and pouring scorn on girls now for doing the same (sluts, hookers, ewww my poor boy).
That said, I think trousers should be compulsory. I don't understand the strange reluctance by schools to do so. Can't believe there are still some schools that don't allow them at all.

Why did my post appear twice? Oo-er, I deleted the first as it had an errant apostrophe.

Skirts are banned completely in one of our local secondary schools, mostly because the staff were sick of wasting time policing skirt lengths

agree with jenai.

Maybe if the age old battle of skirt length was removed, the girls would have to use their brains and creativity and discover a way to rebel properly.

Haven't read whole thread but I was thinking exactly the same things this morning while looking at some at traffic crossing.

They looked ready to go out on a night out on the pull, not to go and learn.

Having said that, I can understand why they do it. I did not like my school uniform.

No uniform at my secondary school in France but I still remember a (usually very well dressed) girl in my class coming in one spring day wearing nice jeans and a white shirt which was pretty much see-through, and bra-less..... I don't remember her being sent home. Must have been quite distracting for the boys though...

and we were about 16 and fully developed by then ..... What was she thinking!!