to sue hotel chain

[tosuehotelchain]

We were at a well known hotel this afternoon for Sunday lunch, after lunch we were walking through the reception area where DC (13months old) fell and split open their head on the corner of the table (adult shin height) we had to ask the receptionist for medical assistance, all the while DC screaming and blood pouring everywhere.

We had to take DC to A&E where he needed a GA, however because of past expeirence with this, it was then decided that our baby would go through the treatment and the horrid trauma with no pain relief, he needed 1 inner stitch and 2 outer stitches, and next week he will have to endure it all again.

I phoned the hotel to let them know the result, and asked for safety guards on the tables to stop further accidents like this in future, they said the would get back to me, due to the "design" of the lounge

Everybody has said to sue, as its the only way they know, that this hotel will take action.

I know this from expeirence sadly also with the chain.

However I feel uneasy about it.

Pleasure. Good luck, I'm sure it'll heal fine. I'm sorry if you felt attacked by any of my posts, but I can't lie about what I believe to be right and consequences. I can however fully sympathise with the shock you must have felt, and know I would have been in a state if ds has to go to a&e (again). They're only still babies and it's heart breaking to see them hurt.

we have made it into a huge deal??

a child falls and you are talking of sueing the hotel but WE have made things into a huge deal? that's a laugh.

I never suggested you we're lying SDTG, I suggested that as a nurse you would have known by the way I described the stitches, was the truth, when you evidently, said I was the one lying, you later admitted you we're incorrect by your comments, as I further explained, as Ive said, I didn't want to go into great detail, but as the thread has progressed, it made me feel as if I needed to give more information.

All along this thread Ive been called a negligent mother, a bitch, a silly woman, a money grabber, a liar etc... when none of the above is true, it been completely unjustified.

Im sorry this thread is vile, and also degrading as we're all mothers and to see mother and adults behave in this manner is degrading and shameful. That's my opinion and that's how I feel with this thread, Ive allowed everyone to have their opinion, and answered people questions, however yet even when the hotel has acknowledge something needs done, and has took action immediately, still I am being flamed for my thread title, still being called a liar, and any other irrelevant things, just to be antagonistic and continue the childish unnecessarily and unjustified behaviour.

[garibaldi]

Boo, you continually are harping on and on about my intention to sue, I was never going to sue, it was advised to me that I do, I have repeatedly said this, and yet you fail to acknowledge this repeatedly, what on earth is your problem, its all irrelevant now.

were you called negligent and a bitch? who called you those things and a money grabber?

i told you what my problem is. you were planning to get these documents illegally!!!! can you not see how mad that is?

if you weren't planning to sue then why get these documents, especially when it means you are breaking the law by doing so and risking your friends employability? that seems a hell of a lot to risk when they would be of no use to you.

OP, I think you need to take a bit of a step back, perhaps review the entire thread, from your username and title, through your comments about documents and your responses to those who said you were being unreasonable, to the very end, and ask yourself if prhaps, just perhaps, you handled this thread badly, possibly due to being upset by what was clearly a very traumatic experience.
Yes, you have taken a bit of a battering, but surely you can see that the way the thread evolved has led people to question your account? The times involved certainly were very tight and when you posted a reply with "two hour nap" highlighted in bold I certainly thought that this was drawing attention to implausible timings and was in fact you trying to make it clear that the whole thing was a send-up. I can absolutely see why people have doubted the account - I certainly did for a while.
Also, the drip-feeding of information, with most of the extra info coming defensively in response to being told you were being unreasonable - this is surely always going to make people wonder.
As regards the discussion about obtaining documents, I am honestly gobsmacked that you don't see that your proposed method of obtaining information was outrageous and put your friend, at least, at high risk of being on the receiving end of legal action herself.
If you start a thread in a misleading way to attract attention, in a alternative username, dripfeed info, state that you don't want to do what your title says you are thinking of doing, talk about receiving confidential information by illegal methods,and do not at any point accept that there is even a possibility that you are, in fact, being unreasonable when this question was the whole point of the thread, surely, surely you see that people are going to be irritated and sceptical about the whole thing?
If you had posted and then come back and said "you know what, you're right, suing would be unreasonable so what does everyone think I should do instead?" you would have got a much better reception.

Tosue - you said "....SDTG, if you are who you say you are,..." - I'm afraid that is very different from 'suggesting that I should known from your description of the stitches that you were telling the truth'.

I never planed to obtain documents illegally either, my friend suggested she could get me them, as she didn't care as shes leaving the company. Again this was her suggestion, not mine, so again unjustified, and if you read the thread you will see this, as well as the name calling, personal insults etc... Its all evident on this thread!

hallelujah for annec555!!!

yes and the rest says, "you will know that the stitches I have mentioned" (or something along the lines of that) I didn't call you a liar, only that in your job you will know the stitches I am talking about.

But taking the documents that your friend had stolen from her work would have been illegal, had you been considering doing that, tosue.

annecc, I tried to keep it simple, people here didn't want it simple, they kept harping on that I was lying, a negligent parents, in not protecting our son, yes maybe this thread appears to be drip feeding, however it certainly isn't.

tosuehotelchain Sun 12-Sep-10 22:21:15
"I actually do have a case for liability, they already have accident reports concerning the table, which my friend will pass give to me."

this does not say your friend suggested it. it says your friend will give you them. which suggests you have discussd this and agreed s/he will get them for you and you will accept them. that is illegal.

Is there a facepalm smiley?
It doesn't matter whether she offered to get them for you, or you asked! Worst case scenario, she takes physical documents and gives them to you and you are guilty of receiving stolen goods. Best case scenario, she gets into a whole world of trouble and you have to watch a friend suffer for something you were morally involved in, even if you didn't go sneaking about the office at night with a torch, rattling filing cabinets.
It is called conspiracy - two or more parties agreeing together to do something. You would be just as culpable as her. I suspect you probably would get away with it, even if she didn't, but the documents would be useless to you, even if you were considering litigation as no court in their right mind would admit stolen documents as evidence.
And "stolen" is the right word. She would be stealing the physical documents or the relevant data and passing them to you.
Seriously, even if you see absolutely nothing unreasonable in anything else you have said in this entire thread, surely you can admit that this idea was insane, immoral and almost certainly illegal!

booyhoo.....you are wasting your time. The OP will never accept she was being unreasonable.

Crazy. Children fall. Is it possible to sue yourself?

i am aren't i scurry?

garibaldi, anyone?

"I actually do have a case for liability, they already have accident reports concerning the table, which my friend will pass give to me."

"this does not say your friend suggested it. it says your friend will give you them. which suggests you have discussed this and agreed s/he will get them for you and you will accept them. that is illegal"

It doesn't suggest the sort, or does it not say that my friend never suggested it to me, my friend said, if I need the documents she will give me them, I never said anything in return.

so again unjustified to make you appear as if your correct in your thinking.

Yes, I will admit it it was probably incorrect way of thinking, however it was just that thinking, and not even on my part it was hers. I can and will admit when I AM incorrect, however shame cant be said from some of you.

Op - I truly hope that your little boy continues to recover well and that removing the sutures is painless for him.

However, I find it quite incredible that you truly believe that the responses you have received have been unreasonable. If i was easily insulted (which i'm not) I would actually find it quite insulting that you title a thread 'AIBU TO SUE' and then berate those who say that you may just possibly have intended to 'erm - SUE the hotel ?
Seeing your child injured is horrible and traumatic but I'll say again that a childs safety is primarily a parents responsibility. I've felt like c* when my kids have taken a tumble which I could have prevented. But it's life unfortunately and it will probably happen to you and your DH, and to me, again.

I really think that you need to step away from the thread now and spend time with your little boy (as I will also be doing) I don't actually believe any of the things that you have posted about previous injuries to adults or to the fact that all tables have been removed etc - it just doesn't ring true. We are in a completely OTT environment about H&S and gouging lumps out of adults shins would be a serious cause for concern surely.

OP why the hell are you only clarifying that now then? what you wrote clearly implies that you intended to take these documents from your friend. nowhere does it say that you refused to take them!!! and i think you ned to check you definition of unjustified.

example: a woman talking of sueing a hotel chain for something they didn't do is unjustified.

me reposting what you wrote and taking it at face value is not unjustified.

I think we are all wasting our time here.

It's also worth noting that even setting aside the illegal scheme to acquire accident reports, even if you had such reports legitimately they don't, as you think, prove liability. Accidents happen. Sometimes they happen repeatedly. Just because it's happened once, that doesn't of necessity prove that the company (or whomever) has to remove the risk. People fall down stairs in shops with monotonous regularity (my daughter has done this, and lost a tooth in the process). This doesn't mean that stairs have to be removed, or that anyone who subsequently falls down the same stairs can sue. ALARP (as low as reasonably practical/possible) does not mean zero risk, and incorporates the costs (i the broadest sense) of reducing risk. Tables that people clip with their shins? Not on the radar.