to be shocked that so may kids have returned to school with incorrect uniform?

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Why? Why buy your kids what can only be termed "fashion" blouses and trousers rather than school uniform ones (and this is primary we are talking about). Why allow them to even say they wont wear the normal polo shirts like everyone else? why buy girls black trousers when the rule is grey - why a grey cardi when it should be green?

obviously if someone has moved into area, or has lost items towards the end of the year, things get a little lax and anything goes, but why buy a whole set of new stuff, that IS NOT the uniform - and its not as if its because its cheaper, its not

the trouble is the kids get used to this and parents pandering to them, but the local secondaries will not tolerate it - I await the annual series of front page stories about how petty schools are for sending kids home for having the wrong trousers, or wearing trainers

I can imagine some of these mums marching in and having a word with their DCs eventual employer about their "right" to be late once in a while, or to not want to wear the provided uniform!

Most school uniforms are hideous. It is beyond me entirely to understand why looking a fright is conducive to personal development - the opposite seems a lot more probable.

'that's whats wrong with this country'

that made me laugh so hard my baby stopped feeding!

Sod the economy, crime, racism, poor housing.
Quick run and tell Dave, he could get a School Uniforms Czar (though that's a bit too New Labour probably), get the children in identikit clothes and sort this country out once and for all.

I struggle to find school skirts that are not tartily short for my dd1. She is very tall, but I was when I looked at the skirts in M&S. I finally managed to get her one from John Lewis which came in two length fitting, regular and long. The long one is still above her knee, but at least it does not look like a belt like this one from Asda.

My dd1 was really looking forward to starting Y6, and she said most Y6's do not use school book bags, so could she buy her own school bag. The bag was bought, but when she returned to school a note was circulated saying that students should not be bringing their own bags to school. I therefore have not allowed dd1 to use the bag she has bought. She thinks that I am being very unfair, because last year the school ignored students using their own bags. As far as I am concerned she can use her own bag in her own time. I bet that other parents would go in whinging, even though their little darling has an old uncool bookbag at home.

LOL, DS1 has the named polo shirt and sweatshirt but that's as far as it goes for us.

Howling with laughter at people who get so uptight over uniform.

Some people obey and respect rules, others break them.

Just like some people obey and respect the law, others break it.

Quite so BarmyArmy. Any head teacher who sends home a pupil for wearing incorrect uniform is in breach of the law and is setting a poor example.

So astute of you

Greensleeves - he he he, nice try. If every discussion on here boiled down to whether the law had been breached, there'd be considerably less to discuss!

I think the people who let their kids wear what they want probably take a more 'pragmatic' view on breaking the law...as will their kids no doubt.

Similarly, those that wear what they want, in order to 'express themselves' are probably more creative and imaginative than those that just wear the uniform as required.

Good and bad points about both camps, I s'pose.

I'm not going to obey a rule just because it's a rule.
If it's a rule with reason behind it and I agree with that reasoning then fine.

wastingaway - the same applies to the Law with you, does it?

Where do you live? I like the sound of this 'pick-and-choose' ethos?

Who just blindly follows rules though? some rules are ridiculous

Barmy, thankfully the majority of laws in the UK are reasonable as far as they apply to my life and experience.

But yes of course the same applies to the law.

I don't get the follow rules for the sake it thing either.

Laws are slightly different - the point of making a rule a law, is to make it clear that it is not optional or subject to personal opinion - and will be enforced.

Well I bought the wrong uniform on purpose. It says girls can wear navy blue or grey trousers but boys only grey. It also says girls can wear a blue cardigan or round necked jumper but boys can only wear the jumper. It also said the black shoes would be preferable.

Why do girls get more choice than boys?

If girls are wearing navy trousers, then navy shoes would look better than black, so why are black ones preferable?

You can't get round necked knitted school jumpers. They are always V necks. The only round necked ones you can get are sweatshirts and they don't wash very well and wear out a lot quicker than knitted jumpers.

WIBU to buy DS navy blue trousers, with navy blue shoes and a v necked navy blue jumper? The trousers and shoes look better with the compulsory navy blue jumper and the v necked jumper will wash and wear better. (If navy blue trousers weren't an option for girls then I would have bought grey trousers and black shoes)

I know vaguely which colours are in the uniform but I haven't troubled myself to find out which bits should be which colour. Keeping to the basic colours is surely enough. Also agree colour options should be the same for boys and girls.

I love school uniform - I love no arguments about what the kids are wearing in the morning, I love that the polos and sweatshirts can be washed and tumble dried with no need for ironing, and I love that the kids all look like they belong.
At my ds's primary the uniform is yellow polo, black sweatshirt and black/grey bottoms - as far as I've noticed girls wear skirts, pinafores, trousers or those really cute knee length shorts...all in black or grey. There are logoed things at the school shop but they're not insisted on as long as the colours are adhered to, but there is a second-hand uniform shop that is made good use of so 99% of the kids have the logoed things.
The only difference is that the P7 pupils have a different coloured polo (new idea this term, not sure I like it, but heyho) and a hoody instead of crewneck sweatshirt with a 7 embroidered on the sleeve. They're all dead keen to wear that as it shows they're the "biggies"!
My kids both always wear uniform (at ds1's new secondary it is vv strict, but then, so am I about it, so that's fine), but tbh don't really have any opinion about other parents that don't bother.

Black jumpers in 2 schools - WHERE? I've never heard of an all black uniform. I think it's grim for children to have to wear all black.

Our black uniform is in West Yorkshire. I assume the other school is in Scotland as the poster was talking about P7.

I do think all black is really awful, and there is another (better) school nearer to use where the children don't have to wear uniform, but there is no room for DD to go there.

Cool, ninja school.

Aye, we're in Scotland, but uniform isn't all black - polo shirt is bright yellow . When the bell goes and they all come running out, it's like a swarm of little bumblebees

Uniform is a bit contentious at our primary; after a recent school amalgamation and change of name hotly opposed by the village mafia it has become a political statement as to whether you show up in green (old uniform, faithful to the heritage blah blah blah) or purple (new uniform, looking to the future, not getting involved in petty village politics etc). This morning we had reporters on the kerb and several girls getting shouted at by other mums for calling those in purple "traitors". It's like a flippin' civil war!

But on the whole I agree with school uniform, as it takes my dds several hours to decide what to wear at the weekends.....

Acinonyx - I'd look up the definitions of rules vs laws if I were you.

Altinkum - but black is the most commonly-found shoe colour. I find it hard to believe correctly-fitting shoes can't be found.

The nextMrsDepp
Blimey

Gah. I am completely torn on school uniform- as a teacher, I hated spending time telling kids off for their incorrect uniform, sometimes when they had made a mammoth effort just to get to school...

...On the other hand, without school uniform, you have to go further to 'rebel' IYSWIM. In a school with a uniform you're the rebel if you don't wear a tie; in a school without uniform you have to go further to be seen as a rebel by your peers, and this can sometimes involve much more dangerous or anti-social behaviour.

(BTW BA, thank you for your kind wishes on another thread)