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when is a pedophile not a pedophile

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sakapoopoo · 07/09/2010 13:56

The age at which a woman/girl in Japan may have sex is 13.
In some other southeast asian countrys the age is 14 or 15 and in some countrys there is no age limit as long as the girl is married and in some countrys that can be as young as 8
If a man in England has sex with a 13 yr old he will be regarded as a pedo,but if he goes to Japan where it is legal should he be classed as a pedo? Or not because he is not breaking the law

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ladyharriet · 07/09/2010 18:37

I think the answer to the question in the last-but-one line of your post can be found in the two lines before it.

EleFunTess · 07/09/2010 18:39

Why have you come on to a parenting site to discuss paedophilia (sp?), sakapoopoo. Especially if you are an American male. it just seems very odd.

Personally, I think men who want to have sex with pre-pubescent or barely pubescent girls - no matter what their culture or the law - are paedos.

sakapoopoo · 07/09/2010 18:42

EleFunTess
so it is ok for women to talk about pedo's(I have seen at least 2 threads)
but if a man talks about it then there is something wrong

You are all very sexist

I am not American

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EleFunTess · 07/09/2010 18:46

Sexist? Pa ha ha ha.

I just wonder what your motivation is? Are you a regular poster? Or have you just popped on to Mumsnet for a quick straw poll about the acceptability of fucking 13 yr olds? Hmm

sanielle · 07/09/2010 18:47

Um he is clearly not American, and doesn't have a great grasp of the English language.

We (americans) really aren't that bad guys..

ProfessorLaytonIsMyLoveSlave · 07/09/2010 18:48

A paedophile is someone who is sexually attracted to pre-pubescent children, no matter what country he or she happens to be in at the time. Hope this helps answer your question.

If you want to discuss the exact legal status of hypothetical men who have sex with children or young people in a variety of different countries and legal systems, perhaps you should try lawyersnet. It's an odd thing to want to discuss on Mumsnet.

sakapoopoo · 07/09/2010 18:48

EleFunTess
Personally, I think men who want to have sex with pre-pubescent or barely pubescent girls - no matter what their culture or the law - are paedos.

That is what I was lookng for.I was just interested in MNers thoughts on the legal age for sex around the world and should it be 16 higher or lower

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Dione · 07/09/2010 18:51

Then you should have preceded said comment with "do shut up you stupid woman", not stupid women. No, don't thank me, it's ok, correcting children's grammar is part of what I do.

It is ok for women to talk about pedo's what?

LadyBiscuit · 07/09/2010 18:53

So you're not American, nor are you going to Japan. Are you 12 though? Definitely time for kids to be home from school

sakapoopoo · 07/09/2010 18:56

Dione
dont worry I wont

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Dione · 07/09/2010 19:04

You forgot to insert a comma, an apostrophe and a full stop. I think your mother should have a word with your English teacher.

Ele, perhaps our little friend wanted to know if any of us Mumsnetters thought it acceptable to fuck one thirteen year old in particular: Him.Wink

FallingWithStyle · 07/09/2010 19:04

I ahve a personal theory that paedophiles have a deep fear/hostility of/towards adult females.

You dont seem to like women very much OP... Just sayin' Smile

tethersend · 07/09/2010 19:06

LeQ, don't forget to factor in that much of the population probably had no idea of their actual age. Perhaps.

sakapoopoo, have you no better insults? I'm a bit disappointed, tbh.

sakapoopoo · 07/09/2010 19:13

tethersend
Why should I insult you?
Do you enjoy being insulted/verbaly abused by men?

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sakapoopoo · 07/09/2010 19:14

FallingWithStyle
I get on very well with women thank you

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Dufy · 07/09/2010 19:18

Just looking "pererast" up in the dictionary now.

Nope, either you spelt it wrong or my Oxford is very out of date!

FallingWithStyle · 07/09/2010 19:22

"Do you enjoy being insulted/verbaly abused by men?"
"I am talking to one bird..."
"boy oh boy some of you chicks are a bit touchy,is it penis envy?"
"must be the time of the month"
"do shut up you stupid women"

"I get on very well with women"

Clearly... Grin

preghead · 07/09/2010 19:24

still laughing - great thread

sakapoopoo · 07/09/2010 19:25

FallingWithStyle

ha ha

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preghead · 07/09/2010 19:27

Is this homework?

sakapoopoo · 07/09/2010 19:29

preghead
no I want to get past 100
comments. So I will apologise for being a knob when that happens

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itsatiggerday · 07/09/2010 19:31

Wow, what a thread [being extremely careful about my grammar and punctuation...]

Just a thought, maybe one of the problems in all this is the idea of just wanting sex?

Also, regardless of the pre/post puberty debate, I'm uncomfortable with a much older person sleeping with a much younger person because it does call into question the extent of 'power' or coercion in place. When the younger person is a child (under 18) and the age gap is large, this is of grave concern as it is hard to be sure the child has the maturity and strength to know whether and how to say no.

Any kind of sex tourism is cheapening the person into a commodity. By the way, legally the position in the UK changed 10 or so years ago so that people who committed sex crimes abroad could be prosecuted following their return to the UK, but it had to be a crime in that country which, as pointed out above, can be very different from UK criminal limits.

I know it's unfashionable, (but I'm a Christian so I'm used to being that!), but maybe sex only for marriage (or permanent relationship if you will) is actually a means of protection from this kind of attitude of consumerism to something deeply personal and intimate.

BeerTricksPotter · 07/09/2010 19:35

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sakapoopoo · 07/09/2010 19:52

hurray I have got 100

I will go back to my original name now

some comments have been very interesting and eye opening. We have a lot of ladys on here who..
I better not say because there seem to be a lot of anti male feelings

I would like to know why you thought I was a peadophile?I was just commenting on the age of sex around the world and your thoughts on the matter

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