to bew commitig benefit fraud

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ok here goes....
im claiming as a single parent but p lives here but cant afford to declare it and now feeling bad> what to do??

there are some things that deserve to be judged. and someone knowingly committing fraud by not declaring that they're living together deserves to be judged - sorry.

It's VERY clear when you get IS (and I believe other benefits too though can't remember exactly - as I know IS were by far the clearest) that if your circumstances change then you MUST tell them.

violethill - no, she hasn't shopped herself. expatinscotland said "...she's off to change her name before someone shops her."

Let me make myself abundently clear. OP is doing wrong and is asking for advice. Strewth!

Agree with "Chatelaine". Why would she post unless she was already feeling pretty rubbish about it? More to this i think.

the "advice" she needs is what would have been explained to her when she applied for IS, if you start living someone then you have to declare it otherwise it'll come back and bite you on the arse

MaMoTTaT - from reading the OP, it doesn't sound to me as if she is too far down the lane of no return. Question is, can we sign post her to advice and self help?

It wouldnt take much effort I'd have thought for someone investigating fraud to find out the ops address through her IP and mumsnet.

Exactly rainbow! It would be pretty damn easy to trace someone who's posted on a public forum!

That's why several of us said several pages ago that she's being pretty stupid, whether she's genuine or a troll!

Rainbow' and violet' - it's exactly that kind of comment that would put off someone seeking advice. Not very inclusive imo.

Would people on here honestly report her ..jeez

eh? How is pointing out the fact that you can be traced when you post something on teh internet admitting illegal activity be not very inclusive?

I don't think the benefit fraud squad trawl MN ..

Are people so naive they imagine it's only lovely mummies who would never shop anyone who every reads posts on mumsnet??

Advice and self-help? Um, I'm claiming as lone parent but my partner lives with me.

What advice and 'self-help' do you need other than, 'Probably not a good idea to do this because it's illegal.'

Can't afford to live together.

Oh, okay, um, how about you get a job then, since he'll be living with you and can look for a job round his hours if possible.

LOL@MaamRuby.

You'd have to know who she is to shop her.

FFS.

So, if someone stole money out of your purse, folks, you shouldn't be so quick to judge him. There may be a reason why he robbed you of your last quid. Best to get hold of him and have a chat about support, advice and self-help.

People who claim fraudulently make all benefits claimants look back and perpetuate stereotyping and bashing of such people, no matter how vulnerable.

Do people shop all sorts of things on MN then or only benefit fraud?

Again, the only person I've ever shopped was someone who boasted online ad nauseum, under her real name, about claiming benefits when she was here on a student visa and has loads of savings at home.

But I don't see where it's judgey on AIBU when someone says, 'Oh, I'm claiming fraudulently' to point out a) that's a shite idea b) it paints everyone on benefits with a bad brush, no matter how legit.

Exactly rainbow!

I'm curious to know as well, why it's so unreasonable to point the facts out!!

I have no idea on the detail of how the benefit fraud 'squad' operate, and I'm sure most people don't either, but I do know that once you post something on the internet you are most certainly traceable!

She will be traceable, it's that simple if it's true.

His employer will have him down at her address, CTC are using the PAYE system for spot checks, they are also linking people to Experian. Now you only need a password to access your account in you have been through the Exparian check.

If something does not ring true on there they will investigate it they can access this info anyway. That's why I don't know why there is all this hysteria in the news about using bounty hunters, CTC have been working this way for a while, about time too really.

She will get caught of her own doing that's that really.

I'm sorry but 'we can't afford to live together' is just a joke. What OP means is that she can't afford to legally live at a level she would like.

So she would rather be without her DH and have the money great relationship that is.

Or, like most responsible members of society, they could actually work out what they could afford without fraud and maybe, Heaven forbid, have to reassess their spending.

OP - I don't understand when the relationship started... You must have been living where you are living BEFORE your P moved in? So you must have been able to afford it then?
And then there must have been a day when you decided to live together, didn't you sit down and work out how much he was going to contribute to the household?
Or did he just suddenly move in one day?
What is the timescale here?

I haven't read the entire thread, but please don't do this, OP. You could find yourself in court - I served on the jury in a case similar to yours, and it would be dreadful for your children if you ended up in the dock - or worse, if you were found guilty and either fined or, worst case, sent to jail.

It's wrong OP and fraud.

Yesterday there was a thread about paying a cleaner and a nanny cash in hand at far less than the minimum wage so that the employees could claim benefits and the employers could benefit from more or less slave wages.

I was really shocked because it seemed as if lots of MNers knew people who did just that.

Who reports people like that I wonder? There are no government campaigns highlighting or targeting middle-class tax-dodging women OR men with freephone numbers readily available yet it seems to be quite a common scenario.

How about all the posters who gladly and publicly voted Tory and who rail against benefit-scroungers take up this issue? It could be a really good campaign for the honest (I'm sure) majority.

Imagine the tax which could be added to the national coffers if perhaps, they paid it