to think that ADHD/ADD is a load of nonsense?

[Breton1900]

Are we really producing ever more kids with these conditions or do parents simply need to take back control and realise that, at times, all kids can be obnoxious, loud, defiant, restless and fidgety and that strictly enforced rules for behaviour, lots of TLC, and the occasional smack on the bum may be the way forward?

The OP knows big words though!

But seriously, the OP might use flowery language and obscure references, but did not have the emotional intelligence to realise that people on Mumsnet probably have genuine diagnoses and could get very hurt by their implications, as indeed they have.

I beg to differ I think the OP knew exactly what he was doing.

Yes...or the OP is cruel and nasty troll...either way, doesn't look good for them.

No, I think I reacted strongly because it was good to release some of that frustration that I have had to spend so much time on paperwork, appointments as well as caring for my children day in, day out.

No as it No it doesn't look good for them

I understand

I wonder if the OP has swallowed a Thesaurus?

Either way - still a twat!

My only hope is that the OP must be close to retirement by now.

In my teaching days, pre-kids, I knew about ADHD and the kids I knew about had really obvious difficulties and you could tell when a dose of ritalin had been missed or was wearing off. They were all over the place. That said, I will still confess to being pretty about it. And yes, I did encounter my fair share of not-so-little shits and bad parenting, not necessarily going together, I might add.

All my has certainly disappeared now that I have that child who is all over the place. It didn't even occur to me how hard I had to work with DS1 until sweet, calm, compliant (mostly!) DS2 came along.

Hmm Thesaurus
Twat: twonk, prat, cock-monkey, knob end, shit stirring, attention-seeking wanker....

Of course the op knew whatthey were doing.

If you want a discussion you post in Childrens health or somewhere. You post
"does anyone else have concerns about the apparent increase in ADHD etc and the over medicalisation of these conditions?
Then you have a reasonable discussion which may get heated but is not designed to inflame.

Posting provocatively in AIBU has one intent only. Look

Site Stuff : Does anyone else think trolling about childrens health issues is wrong?

AIBU " Does anyone else think certain OPs are sad blokes who are wanking furiously over attention gained on here that they could never achieve in RL - what with them being slimey cock monkeys?

Sometimes the way you open the subject is a clear indication of what you are trying to achieve.

pagwatch I actually love your post. Well said.

:o @ pagwatch

yes, but what about the kittens/puppies debate? Has no one grasped the importance of that ?

< attention-seeking furiously >

sheesh.

I knew my kid's ASD and ADHD was all my fault.

No, he's no medicated. Yes, we deal with it with tolerance.

Shame OP can't show the same response.

pag - I fear your last post might backfire. He may become uncontrollably aroused by the phrase "slimey cock monkey"

Please think before you post next time

Well I can see I haven't missed much.

I have huge sympathy for sufferers and their families and wholeheartedly believe in the condition.

I think some people use the term incorrectly, which is a real shame and I think this might be what OP is driving at in part?

Whilst channel hopping over the weekend I came across an episode of that awful food programme with Gillian McKeith (where people invite her into her home to change their eating habits). A young lad and family had been completely existing on fried foods alone, an interchange went something like this:

Mother - Our son gets a bit ADHD sometimes, it's all down to his diet you see, too many chips! That and I can't keep him away from crisps and sweets, brings it on, it does. His ADHD has caused some problems at school.

Gillian - I am not surprised! Look at his diet.

I doubt from the evidence given this boy had ADHD. Some people may be using it as catch all term for a lively child etc. Therein lies the problem?

Meant ADD.

Breton: I'm a teacher too and it's dinosaurs like you (not in terms of age, but in terms of attitude) who drag the rest of us down.

breton:are you my son's form teacher? No, on second thoughts he would never stoop so low as to use a word like "bum".

I'm a teacher too. I teach kids with fake disabilities. Little sneaky kids, faking PMLD just to be dis-applied from the NC. Toe rags.

FWIW, I did some of my training in a mainstream school, in inner London, not a nice bit. The school had more than 50% of its children on the SEN register, and more than 80% had English as an additional language. Not one of the children on the register didn't need to be there, they all needed additional support and lessons tailoring to them. In many cases, it was parenting, or lack of it - we were dealing with EBD, FAS, children who were routinely abandoned by a succession of fathers, children who brought knives to school because they had been disrespected. I had two children who were considered men in their home countries at the age of 13; one had been a soldier.

But it doesn't matter if the parenting is at fault. What matters is that the child needs us, as teaching professionals, to support their learning in order to achieve their potential, whatever that may be. Essentially, there should be, in my cloud cuckoo ideal world, no need for statements - because children would not be expected to conform to a one size fits all approach to education.

There is a MASSIVE difference between children who are a bit indulged and a bit spoilt and a bit bratty, and a child with no impulse control for whatever reason.

What sort of school do you teach in, Breton? Ever been threatened with rape? Bitten? Spat at? There are way worse problems than ADHD affecting our kids, and a lot of them do result from institutional and parental neglect. I think there are more worthy targets of your disdain.

/endbleedingheartliberalrant

What Riven said.