to think that ADHD/ADD is a load of nonsense?

[Breton1900]

Are we really producing ever more kids with these conditions or do parents simply need to take back control and realise that, at times, all kids can be obnoxious, loud, defiant, restless and fidgety and that strictly enforced rules for behaviour, lots of TLC, and the occasional smack on the bum may be the way forward?

lady its a good thing that you are strong i admire that and well done to your dad he should be proud

i have a reason why i am not taking things on the chin at the mo, but i am sure i will be back to myself soon

its also nice to see that most people do not agree with the op

Breton,

as i said previously unless you have experience of a child with SN then your opinions are not valid tbh and they can be offensive.

Tired, I am sure he would if he was still with us, sadly i lost him 7yrs ago but he was disabled for 23yrs of my life and I used to get into fist fights over him..until he taught me to laugh at the comments and ignorance...it is one of the worst disabilities in the world being ignorant.

Bret i find you and the others you mentioned very offensive.

do you not get it by now that the majority here do NOT agree with you.

i think it was a terrible idea to start a thread like this and so do the majority

if you want evidence on that then re-read the thread.

if you had an ounce of self dignity you would apologise to those you have offended

but no doubt you cant say the s word

Sorry to hear that lady

he obviously taught you well

he would be proud of you and you should be proud of yourself

Tired,

do you not realise people who suffer from the terrible affliction of ignorance find it hard to admit they are in fact complete twunts and apologize.

Tired, I was 5 when he became disabled, i was 28 when he died. he had a long time to teach me.
And now when the chips are down i remember what he taught me...it keeps me going.

TheLadyEvenstar.
Stop being so pretentiously smug.

Just because some of us hold different opinions from you does not automatically make us lesser individuals or somehow unable to cope with what life throws at us.

Remember that children spend 5 hours a day 5 days a week with people like me and plenty of teachers hold some less than PC views on the various disorders and conditions from which their various pupils are deemed to be suffering, irrespective of what we may say to the parents!

This was recently evinced, much to the horror of many on MN, by what is written on the TES fora about parents and pupils in general.

It really is lovely you think like that lady and i do really admire you, you have done well to cope.

righto i need to get to my bed am feeling tired

thanks for the chat lady its been lovely

night night hope to speak again soon

p.s. bret if you do not apologise then yes i will report you

Breton, what you really mean is it is ok for you to have an opinion but when others disagree with you and tell you so then you get personal.

I don't recall myself resulting in playground tatics of name calling. And actually I am allowed to be as smug as I like because I am an adult and free to do as I please.

Tiredmumno1. The majority may not agree with me but that is no reason to run whining and whinging to the mods claiming to have been offended or abused merely because I've expressed an alternative opinion!

Anyone who was outraged by the OP could have simply ignored the thread.

Bret the difference being most people agree and have the same opinion as lady

i cant see how she is being smug

but hey ho you had your chance

TheLadyEvenstar: Where have I been personal, other than in my last remark to you about pretentious smugness? And that reply was in response to your own attempt to patronise me.

Where have I put links to images referring to trolls? Where have I used abusive language?

You need to get a sense of proportion and look to the beam in your own eye!

But you had your opinions and they obviously didnt work out.

if you wanna call it whining thats your look out, considering you offended alot of people on the way.

i may whine to the mods tomorrow just so the others can see you were given a chance to rectify yourself. you chose not to take it

Tiredmumno1 wrote "Bret the difference being most people agree and have the same opinion as lady"

So?

We've differed on opinions.

Isn't that what grown ups do?

Or is it always necessary to resort to abuse or run to the mod claiming offended sensibilities?

oh yes the links to a troll under a bridge hmm yes that is so obviously you isn't it?

You know you need to lighten up you are taking things far too seriously.

And it was you who called me names not vice versa. all i did was lighten the mood for the ladies you offended.

TheLadyEvenstar wrote: "I don't recall myself resulting in playground tatics of name calling."

No of course you didn't.

You just made several posts with links to various "amusing" little images referencing trolls and troll sprays!

Of course no one could possibly regard that as a playground tactic!

TheLadyEvenstar: That you posted those childish links doesn't bother me.

However, I do object to your hypocrisy in adopting a "holier than thou" attitude and accusing me of becoming personal when, in fact, it was you who made the personal comments and not me.

Hence my reference to Luke 6.42.

hmmm are we feeling sad from the lack of people agreeing with you oh hum welcome to the real world.

am off to play with the Groms in the enchanted forest now tata

TheLadyEvenstar wrote: "hmmm are we feeling sad from the lack of people agreeing with you"

No. But I can't abide hypocrisy and mendacity.

Although I am now detecting some pusillanimity on your part!

haha yes yes i am a coward hahaahahahahaha

thats the best laugh i have had in days!!!

Tiredmumno1 wrote: "i may whine to the mods tomorrow just so the others can see you were given a chance to rectify yourself. you chose not to take it"

From the obsequiousness of your tone towards the mods and your supporters and your dissemblance towards me I can only modify the words of Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington and retort:

"Bellyache and be damned"!

tether - kittens (see page 1)

OP, I have not read the entire thread. I don't know if you have explained exactly why you think this condition is an invention of modern times. So, Why do you think this?

Trust me, ADHD exists, is not due to bad parenting. It is an imbalance in the chemicals of the brain. My SN DS1 and NT DS2 are an example, same parents, completely different.

If you spoke to my friend who has a daughter with ADHD, now 18, diagnosed at 4, you would change your mind about this. She couldn't sit still on her chair. The day she started on medication she was able to draw a straight line.

I beg you to please inform yourself, and read about this condition. OUr kids don't need more uninformed people like you around.

My 7 year old son has multiple diagnoses.

Autism
ADHD (for which he receives no medication)
Dyspraxia
Dyslexia (tbh I am not convinced by this one)
Hypermobile joints

I try to avoid taking him shopping as I cannot concentrate on that and him.

Otherwise he is very well behaved - certainly he doesn't necessarily stand out when with other children until he doesn't understand a game. He finds it hard to switch between one activity and another, he is impulsive, very active and fidgety. However with one to one support he sits still and concentrates for short periods with regular breaks.

He knows the word NO but like most children doesn't always like it. He knows if I say NO though that the answer is NO.

I take him to special needs drama which concentrates on improving social understanding. He also attends a stay and play group at the same centre. I attend a parenting group to give me a wider set of tools for managing any difficulties. He has just grasped the concept of sticker charts at the age of 7.5.

Hardly shit parenting