to think that ADHD/ADD is a load of nonsense?

[Breton1900]

Are we really producing ever more kids with these conditions or do parents simply need to take back control and realise that, at times, all kids can be obnoxious, loud, defiant, restless and fidgety and that strictly enforced rules for behaviour, lots of TLC, and the occasional smack on the bum may be the way forward?

A discussion does not need you to insult the parents and children on here in the way that you have done Mrscrafty

Sweet dreams troll under your stone

None of my children has ever been diagnosed with any form of disorder so I can only speak from the experiences I have noted in the last 15-20 years of being confronted with ever increasing numbers of teenagers who have been diagnosed with ADHD and various other "isms".

My teaching experience goes back several decades and years ago, most schools had a list of pupils with medical problems, disabilities etc. Today these SENCO lists are being printed in ever longer and heftier booklets. One recent school I was at actually printed it in two volumes by surname A-N and O-Z because there were so many amongst the 2000+ pupils!

Increasingly more and more ADHD diagnosed children are appearing in these files along with their attendant IEPs, TA support details and advice on how to deal with them and their various behaviours.

It does sound clichéd but we just didn't see anything like the number of children with these behavioural problems years ago.

I'm not trying to claim that there were no behavioural problems back then. Of course there were, but nothing on the scale we see today.

All of which begs the question "How have we gone in just two generations from an occasionally disruptive or badly behaved child to a situation where up to 5% of school children and young people have near permanent behaviour issues?"

MrsCrafty and NorwegianBlue - I agree with what you've written. Hang in there!

Thanks wasuup, it just makes me angry that these people have no idea what it is like to try and get the help that is needed.

Breton you are ignorant and lack any kind of understanding so please try to come to terms with that. Goodnight

Two generations ago, these kids left school barely in their teens or ended up in reform schools.

These people don't even care tiredmumno 1 - so don't waste anytime on them.

These people don't even care tiredmumno 1 - so don't waste anytime on them.

And DH has turned off his Xbox, so it's time for me to turn in, too. I've had a frustrating few weeks (roll on September!) and have enjoyed poking at the ignorant and insensitive little hairy guys.

ouryve: That's a sweeping generalisation, where is the evidence?

coming on here rather late but
OP

Breton the evidence that you are are an ignorant and insensitive little hairy guy speaks in your posts for itself. Goodnight hope the bugs don't bite

Oh Breton, I really will. Trust me.

I have had this opinion for about 20 years now and have had experience both in & out of the classroom. I don't honestly think that my opinion will change.

I do agree that there are children with Genuine special needs, but not as many as there seem to be now.

This might help you Breton

You and your damn evidence, you know nothing, so if you know nothing (which is obvious) then dont comment on something you dont deal with on a day to day basis.

you people make me sick you are uneducated pieces of scum

PMSL TheLadyEvenstar

Breton1900: "It does sound clichéd but" - it is. Finally, a point from you I can agree on.

I suspect it is part and parcel of post-modern parenting. Nowadays everything is so "child centred" that young children are kept in a permanent mental state of toddlerhood.

Today many 5-6 year olds arrive at school who are still emotional and behavioural toddlers. They are inattentive, easily distracted, petulant, and oppositional and this infantilized state remains with them until their teens and often into adult life.

One only has to look at the number of "kidults" around today who fly into a temper tantrum, sulk, or become abusive if contradicted or thwarted in some way, to realise that.

I am so glad you are a minority Mrs Crafty :) :) :)

Wasuup what??? I am only trying to help!!!