to think that ADHD/ADD is a load of nonsense?

[Breton1900]

Are we really producing ever more kids with these conditions or do parents simply need to take back control and realise that, at times, all kids can be obnoxious, loud, defiant, restless and fidgety and that strictly enforced rules for behaviour, lots of TLC, and the occasional smack on the bum may be the way forward?

But what a dreadful way to deal with anothers view.

To ignore it and take the piss. I didn't say that all children who are diagnosed with AHDD are wrongly diagnosed, I simply reiterated that in my view, the OP has a point, and backed it up with my experience (this is not the only time either). Many children just have shit parents who can't be bothered to spend time/say no and then wonder why their children are little fuckers and go running to their Dr's to get a statement.

Oh well, you live & learn.

me too please hobnob I have nearly finished doing my arts and craftwork

Doctors don't give statements.

Just need to jump up and down on it now to iron out the creases

Haha yeah its so fecking easy to get a statement.

btw doctors dont issue them

Actually am out of Horlicks anyone for Ovaltine ooh yummy ovaltine means I don't end the day with a nasty taste in my mouth

ooh and anyone for a choccy biccie?? I'm particularly partial to chocolate hobnobs

these creases are right little fuckers

"Many children just have shit parents who can't be bothered to spend time/say no and then wonder why their children are little fuckers and go running to their Dr's to get a statement."

I'm sure a lot of people wish that getting a statement was so easy.

Maybe everyone's doing it wrong!

Rightyho ovaltine and choccyhobnobs all round! I might even share them with those strange looking creatures....over there...you under the bridge out you come it's time for a cocoa a biccie and a rousing round of kwmbayah around the campfire

Imagine we could run to our doctors and get two for one! A dx and a statement all at once.
Now that'd be something!!

wasuup3000 wrote: "NorwegianBlue ADHD is a valid medical diagnosis and to suggest otherwise is being childish and abusive..."

No it is not a valid medical diagnosis. The medical jury is still out.

Why is contradiction and the offering of an alternative opinion being "childish" and "abusive"? Do you not care to have your views on anything challenged? If someone disagrees with you on a government initiative or expresses a preference for a holiday destination that you do not care for are they being abusive and childish towards you?

NorwegianBlue cited US evidence because what happens in the US has a tendency to happen in the UK. In the US diagnosis of ADHD has risen dramatically in recent years.

In 2004 an online report stated that "The number of children in the UK who are reported as having been diagnosed as having ADHD is 1-5%".

Today the NHS website states that ADHD affects 3?9% of school-aged children and young people.

Just as in the US the percentages are rising.

Whilst I accept that many on this thread have children who are not in receipt of medication I have no idea how old the respective children happen to be. However, I have no doubt that many of those young children will be offered medication once they get older. Whether the parents accept the treatment is, of course, their decision.

MrsCrafty - I fear you are wasting your time - the children are playing!

It would appear that many on this site fear any form of serious discussion or any individual who dares to question generally held opinions.

However, if as I, and many of those within the medical establishment suspect, and ADHD doesn't exist as a genuine disorder I daresay that in 30 years or so it will be a lawyer's bonanza as the suits for mis-diagnosis and destroyed lives start being filed.

I dunno, starlight. I ended up with a headache and urge to scream just getting some non-sedating anthistamines from our GP! The statements for both boys were a walk in the park in comparison!

Thanks hobnob Hang on a 2nd while I put my shit parent badge on

would you prefer cocoa Starlight

I think it is terribly ignorant for posters with no direct experience of ADHD/ADD, or other SN, to start threads, or perpetuate them, that denigrate, malign and invalidate the very real day-to-day struggles that many, many parents on MN live with on a daily basis.

What do you think it feels like to have someone start a thread saying that YOU have made up your child's condition to avoid loving parental responsibilities?

I have 3 children. Two are NT, one has SN. In the last few months I have had to adapt the house we live in week by week as my DD1 has grown a half-centimetre, which means she can just reach a new place, or swing her leg just that little bit higher.

I really don't enjoy having to find solutions to the next problem. I don't enjoy thinking that my daughter is safely playing with my washing in the porch (which has a stair gate blocking access to the outdoors) and finding that in fact she has escaped the house, because she has realised that she can push a box over to the gate and climb over.

I don't enjoy having to buy acrylic glass to line my banisters to stop her climbing them and falling off.

I didn't enjoy the OT meetings, Portage meetings, Inclusion meetings, Paed appointments.

I don't enjoy the 15,374 words I had to write for her DLA form.

I didn't enjoy having to write a 17 page submission for her Statement of SEN.

I would much rather she was 'normal' and able to go to a 'normal' school, and do 'normal' things. But it isn't going to change just because I want it to.

Bret give it up, how many people agreed with you as opposed to how many disagreed with you

Because choice of holiday destination is so comparable with a neurological disorder that you have no choice in.

There is lots of unchecked behaviour out there. God, I know that. I even do it.

But even at toddler group, and I visited a few, there were mums there who simply didn't tell their little ones off and the other mums had to say something.

Cue school; those same children were starting to be seen as children who didn't know what discipline was as it wasn't learnt. Oh how many of those Mums have tried really hard to get statemented and failed. They still even in the park, shrug off their childrens behaviour and say 'it's ahdd'. I am getting sick of it.

I'm sorry, I have to go to bed. My DD1 will be up in the early hours, and rises for the day by 05.30, so sleep is a rare commodity. Please don't think I am ignoring anyone. Good night.