Beauty pageants - WTF is wrong with these people?!

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Just watching 'Toddlers and Tiara's' showing little girls in the US being spray tanned and plastered in make-up under duress. Then they're made to parade up and down as minature women whilst their mothers gesticulate at the side of the stage. AIBU to think it's all a bit bloody ridiculous?

YANBU at all

YANBU - see my thread on three year olds and spray tans...

deemented - yes just read your thread. I feel really sorry for these little girls. They look so unhappy. Don't know how these women can think it's a good thing.

YANBU. Can't understand what's wrong with these parents. Heartbreaking to think these little girls are learning that you are valued on looks alone and that to achieve those looks you must put yourself through pain and discomfort. And it cannot be good for them to be sprayed with all those chemicals.

Depends. Sometimes the girls want to do pageants

Sometimes little girls want to wear high heels and red lipstick to school and eat chocolate for breakfast. We stop them.

wee girls preened,primped,and pimped by parents -no thanks

Utter madness. Talk about living vicariously. Would Dads do this? I think not.

Something seriously lacking in mum/dad's lives! Makes me really sad.

It's tough isn't it...wht MummyBookie says is true..some of those kids love it all...and as TetHearseEnd says, but we don't hve to let them...butrelly unles women are prepared to stop wearing makeup and heels and glittery clothes then many little girls WILL want to wear them too!

It's an odd thing to let them go and wiggle their bottoms in front of an audience...all the sexual dancing moves ...I find that far more disturbing than the makeup.

Bit of a conundrum as always. This whole pageant thing is gross, little girls tarting themselves up for mummy, and I expect some pervs love it. But they copy mummy et al and want to be like her, ie feminine etc. Is the solution really that all women dress in dowdy sweatshirts etc and never attract blokes? I don't know, maybe we should just live and let live but keep our kids away from the extremes which are both unhealthy, ie tawdry, superficial, oversexualised cheap trashy bullshit and pseudo de-feminised, hateful, self-loathing screwy femmies

jameelaq, re your earlier comment re Dads, most of these little girls do seem to have a Dad in their lives and they are at the very least tolerating this, if not actively encouraging it. I am fairly sure if my Mum had been into this lark, that my Dad would have put his foot down.

Agree with TethHearseEnd. I find most of my life parenting my children is preventing them from doing what they want to do.

I watched a bit of an episode a few weeks ago,

there was a mum whose dd wasn't spray-tanned and overly made up, they seemed to be dabbling in it rather than completely devoted to it (still barking though, IMO)

she got a bit tearful talking about so many of the girls whose mothers were fanatical and would punish them for not winning

I felt sick, what is it all for? Why is it even legal?

If any of you spend any time watching boys play football you'd probably see that dads do live vicariously through their sons. It's the same but different iyswim. And very, very sad.

ds1 used to play football and I rarely saw anything quite like that! And the Dads didn't take their six year old sons out for a beer afterwards.

Are you joking chipmonkey. And what does beer have to do with it Having said that, I take it you don't live in Liverpool...

jonicomelately Sat 30-Oct-10 22:28:44
If any of you spend any time watching boys play football you'd probably see that dads do live vicariously through their sons. It's the same but different iyswim. And very, very sad.

Yes I suppose so. I find all that vicarious stuff really sad too. I?m not interested in football personally however it seems a lot more innocent and less ?loaded? than teeny pageants.

chipmonkey Sat 30-Oct-10 22:23:16
jameelaq, re your earlier comment re Dads, most of these little girls do seem to have a Dad in their lives and they are at the very least tolerating this, if not actively encouraging it. I am fairly sure if my Mum had been into this lark, that my Dad would have put his foot down.
Well I really wouldn?t know about what parents these kids have or haven?t as I haven?t really seen these shows. I just have a vague memory of some mums cheering or egging them on or something

jameelaq, regarding football dads, you can practically see the pound signs in their eyes. It's awful.

Just wanted to add that, even if most women did wear dowdy sweatshirts we would still attract men because they are more interested in what is under the clothes (and I really can't imagine a world where men think 'Oooh I'm never having another shag because I'm not that into sweatshirts).

The 'You don't look at the mantlepiece when you're poking the fire theory' pippoltergeist

jonicomelately Sat 30-Oct-10 22:50:34
jameelaq, regarding football dads, you can practically see the pound signs in their eyes. It's awful.

Is that really so? I never knew. Never a truer word was spake than "most people leads lives of quiet desperation"

pippoltergeist Sat 30-Oct-10 22:54:59
Just wanted to add that, even if most women did wear dowdy sweatshirts we would still attract men because they are more interested in what is under the clothes (and I really can't imagine a world where men think 'Oooh I'm never having another shag because I'm not that into sweatshirts).

Roll on Sharia law. I'll get me Burka now. Do you think black goes with me kohl eyes?