to leave ds1's soaking wet shoes in the hall so they are still wet in the morning?

[CoupleofKooks]

It was pissing it down here today. Ds1 likes to go out and get soaked, deliberately get himself wet and play in the rain. He has wellies etc but chooses to go out in his trainers. This annoys me and when he does it I have told him he must put paper in his shoes and put them in the airing cupboard, otherwise they are still wet in the morning and he can't wear them . He got athlete's foot before from wearing wet shoes the next day

He doesn't have spare shoes and doesn't like wearing his wellies so he won't be happy in the morning when he finds his shoes are still soaking. He's left them in the hall (also his raincoat is there lying on the floor soaking wet, so if it's raining tomorrow that will be uncomfortable to wear also).

He's 7 and he's just gone to bed. Should I pick them up or leave them?

we do "natural consequences" as far as possible too

that way you can be quite mild, even regretful, in pointing out to them what the outcome is going to be, rather than "Right, I'm gonna do THIS to you now"

oddly the calm rational approach seems to drive ds1 even madder

Morloth

BITCH

Missing the Southern Hemisphere. We had summer here, 2-21st of May I think it was.... it's piddling down.

(Is that your place or just a random photo?)

Having said 'these things come in time', I agree with Pointy wrt the need for constant reminders

Although I would dry the shoes, I would still point out the fact he overlooked them

Obviously doing everything for them without question would be counter productive
My uncle is 47, lives with his parents, and my nana still puts his pants and socks to warm on the radiator on cold mornings

That's a situation you probably want to avoid

Greeny's right, and has my sympathy, DSS's 1 & 2 and my nephew all went through this at simialr age. Increase in testosterone is mine and sister's explanation.

If you want him to be independent you have to stop him being dependent. It's not like you're saying he has to play barefoot or that he has to wear trainers and get athlete's foot [gagging emoticon]. He has an alternative, which he will have to wear even though he doesnt like them, and because he doesnt like them he is more likely to remember to dry his trainers next time.

There are 5 DSC/DC in my house, if I did everyone's stuff for them, I'd never have time for MN . TBH the 1 year old is lucky she gets her clothes put in the washing basket and shoes in the drawer for her, no one else does.

it's not really 'natural' consequences when i have only decided to leave them there after an hour long discussion with a load of internet sprites, though, is it? it's more like 'artificially engineered' consequences :o

"My uncle is 47, lives with his parents, and my nana still puts his pants and socks to warm on the radiator on cold mornings"

this is what i fear :o

Please dry them, he's only 7. Well done for letting him go out and enjoy himself in the rain.

Just to reassure you that he'll soon change Greensleeves my DSS's new approach is to mutter 'You're sooooo tight' under their breath on the way to get dry with the towel they left on their bedroom floor last night.

Random internet photo, our place doesn't have that much grass, is all red dirt.

They have also bought a chest freezer to ensure he has enough frozen milk, bread and ready meals to last a fortnight whilst they go on holiday

God forbid he would have to visit a supermarket

MCTH

FFS - unless he has some form of SN this is completely bonkers...

'natural consequences'

MCTH my mum would do this for my sister. she is 22. she has no SN.

right i have cracked and put them to dry
he is booked in for this sports thing tomorrow afternoon and they must have trainers
on another occasion i think i will let him discover the consequences of forgetting
reminders have NO EFFECT whatsoever
i think his brain has 2 frequencies - one for interesting things like his friends, football cards, anyone talking about cake, etc
and one for me nagging reminding him to do things, which he completely tunes out

I would think that if the last reminder was three weeks ago then it wouldn't have any effect whatsoever!

FWIW
If I had reminded my DS that evening and he had ignored the reminder then I would do as others have suggested and say in the morning
"Oh they're still wet, never mind, wear your wellies" etc so that he can see the consequence of his actions. If, however I last reminded a seven year old three weeks ago then I would just be a mum (maybe a softy one:)) and dry them.

MCTH - OMG at their behaviour

personally, i'd dry them cos i wouldn't want them to get ruined. then, i'd keep them where he can't reach, so if he's going out he has to ask & then will be told no if wellies more suitable, or reminded again if he does wear them.

mumtoabeautifulbabyboy, he only does it once every few weeks - i can't remind him in between if he doesn't do it?

kickass yes i also thought they might go skanky overnight
i am a bit about putting a 7 year old's shoes where he can't reach them, and making him ask permission to put them on

I'd dry them on the account that he's a 7 year old kid and will probably only have room in his brain for important things, like tranformers, Ben 10, bugs and other vital stuff. Or is that just my DS?

update: THEY ARE DRY

Did you ask him to hang them up or put in airing cupboard? If you did and he ignored you that is his look out, if not you should.

read the thread you lazy MNers

there you go, soft as shite

I would dry them. I'm probably a bit soft but I think a 7 year od still needs remindres about thios sort of thing and to also have supervision when he is doing it.