To think no one was allergic to nuts in the 1970's or kids had that ADHT or whatever it is

[ipodmama]

I don,t remember anyone with these 'problems' , I only remember the odd smelly kid?

Because the tone of your post is callous and dismissive, e.g. "whatever it is", 'problems' in.inverted commas, smelly kid. It implied that they are recent phenomena that didn't exist in a less weedy age. That's why you're getting a kicking.

YANBU.
We were all fairly grotty in the 70's so the disadvantaged really didn't stand out!!
And we had no way of being "informed" other than the chosen newspaper of the family and 3 channels of TV.

I think the point is that sometimes ignorance is bliss...

I think you waived any right to a reasonable response when you posted
" these 'problems'"

If the sacrcasm and sneery tone was unintentional then I wonder you phrased your 'question' that way

( oh . look what I did there with 'question'. I wonder if it changed the tone of my innocent response....)

I used to have the same slightly response, until I found out a child of my own was inflicted (to a relatively minor degree) with a condition that could have been 'cured' with decent parenting if that helps at all? Though I agree, there are many poorly parented, poorly disiplined, poorly nourished ADHD children. But then, there are very many ADHD children, so it figures, doesn't it? It's a percentage of children across all demographics. If it seems more prevalent among low-achieving parents, then that's probably because a) it's partly genetic, and b) the low-achieving parents are less inclined to work hard to eradicate environmental factors that exacerbate the condition, such as additives in food, and chaotic lifestyles.

These factors alone cannot cause ADHD, but they do make it harder to deal with.

I think I meant 'afflicted'!

It could even be that tehre are more poorly aprented kids with adhd becuase frankly their aprents are exhausted

Could easily be, no?

Noting you didn't respond to my post to you with yer actual useful ino Ipod. Go figure.

Lol. Not reading this thread but YABNU!

However - understanding of psychological/behavioural disorders has improved, so obviously things get diagnosed that "didn't exist" before.

There was only 1 girl in my school (900 pupils) with proper asthma and 6 with eczema, counting the asthma sufferer. There must be some environmental factor causing the increase in allergies & suchlike.

I saw on the telly that 20% of primary chool children have a behavioural disorder diagnosis?

If that's correct ... I'm afraid I think they're being over-diagnosed.

Altinkum, your post just now was a joke, right?

Grace, is your post a joke? The one just now where you contradicted yourself.

The girlfriend of a friend died on her 21st birthday in 1988 from a peanut allergy. I recently met a woman who was diagnosed as "failing to thrive" as a child but was not diagnosed as coeliac until her 60s, at which point her life changed beyond recognition. Actually I also know someone in his 80s who was only diagnosed as gluten intolerant 5 years ago. So, yes YABU, these problems did exist, they just weren't recognised and ill-health was tolerated a lot more because nobody knew how to treat it.

Ooh yes, dyslexia! I know tons of dyslexic adults in their 40s and 50s through my children's lovely primary school. Most of them are the dads of fellow pupils who were so badly abused by teachers at school and labelled stupid that they would do anything to avoid same for their childrenm.

I also recently met a lady in her 50s whose left hand was tied behind her back at school as a child to stop her "becoming" left handed. She never learned to write satisfactorily with her rioght hand and was instead made to stand in the corner with the dunce's cap on a lot. These bloody left handers, all expecting the world to bend over backwards to accommodate them, eh? My father and DH's mother are both thwarted left-handers, and they both have long term issues, lemme tell you.

I didn't notice myself contradicting myself?

Perhaps Altinkum is a non-English speaker, which might explain why her post was utterly garbled despite her higher education

Ipodmama - kudos :)

Having been born in the 50's I never encountered anyone with cancer until I was in my 20's. Didn't mean it didn't exist until then-just didn't seem to be as common as now.

Okay, Altinkum, you & I don't 'speak the same language'. Pax.

"There was only 1 girl in my school (900 pupils) with proper asthma and 6 with eczema, counting the asthma sufferer. There must be some environmental factor causing the increase in allergies & suchlike. "

Grace are you seriously claiming to KNOW, and to have counted, the number of children who had asthma and eczema at your school? Did you examine the backs of 1800 knees to gather your data? Did you check 900 school bags for inhalers? Did that number remain constant for the 7 years you were at that school? Would you like to define "proper asthma"?

(My DS1 has eczema, was hospitalised with it as a baby, so I think you'd call it "proper eczema." I don't think the school even know about it, it isn't their concern.)

I grew up in the 60/70's and remember nut allergies/asthma. Can remember kids being described as backwards very clearly. Also in the 70's teachers told us about a boy in our class that was dyslexic, he was bright but had problems with letters, and another who had 'autism' who found it difficult to relate to other people.

I think they were just discovering certain conditions which has to be a good thing.