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ItsaJollyHolidayforMary · 15/07/2010 10:12

Been on ML for 8 months, 6wks leave before that, and before that off work lots with HG, so not really there, gelling with the team. I have had massive issues with my employer over the years, trust issues around very poor treatment, resulting in grievance, team changes, etc etc, along with some personal issues to boot (bereavement). So, being at work has for a long time been a hard thing for me, and last ML returning to work was especially hard

This time, I made a decision to be positive, change my attitude to work, and enjoy it. I am returning on hours that fit better with my personal commitments, and have a new manager who appears to be responsive to my needs/wishes and wants to make my return to work as smooth as possible.

So, we have agreed that it would be good to use some of my keeping in touch days to ease me back in slowly (my suggestion), so one morning this week, one, maybe two next week, then two the following two weeks then return at the end of my ML the following week officially, which will only actually be 3 days. The following week will be 5 days as normal (mornings). My manager has said that these Keeping in Touch days are to be completely flexible around me, the hours, and the days to suit and change as needed, so we can deal with teething issues, get my head used to being back in work mode, so when I start officially, we are hopefully on an even keel.

Anyway, I am going on, sorry. DH has been unemployed for a while, and has over the last two weeks had a little work. Not much, but helping out a friend (self employed, both of them), it has been physical work and I know DH has been out of work for a while, so in the mornings I have got up with the kids immediately, sorted their breakfast, made a drink and brekky for DH, so he can just get ready, be calm in his head, and leave knowing it is happy and calm this end. I did this for him yesterday.

Today is my first Keeping in Touch day. Last night, I got todays breakfast/lunch/tea sorted for the children, and a bottle for DS. This morning, he stayed in bed 'dozing' while I fed DS, then DD got up, we snuggled for a bit then at 7:15 I got up, gave the kids their breakfast, made myself and DH a cuppa, had brekky myself, went to go in the shower, DH nipped in, got himself brekky, got milk from shops, then looked after the children while I got ready.

I wanted to walk into work. Takes about 20 mins, and although the weather is a bit shitty, I wanted the time to clear my head, prepare myself for work. I was looking forward to it, for the first time, in probably years. But apprehensive due to the amount of time I have had off, and also apprehensive about leaving my baby boy, although overall not too bad about that. Was looking forward to the walk and listening to Mumford & Sons. It is my favourite album and I listen to a lot in the car, love driving on my own so I can have it loud, happens rarely so was really looking forward to this before work, relaxing, calming, and positive.

It is not on my Ipod, it turns out DH put it on his, not mine, a while ago when I asked. I asked DH if I could use his Ipod, he sees me looking through mine sighing and says 'oh god why do you want mine? Not to listen to Mumford & Sons again? 'can i borrow it or not?' 'why do you want it first?' 'so listen to Mumford & Sons' "no then, listen to something else' 'please let me borrow your ipod, i don't want to listen to anything else, i really want to listen to that album' 'you have listened to it too much, No' 'please' 'no' 'come on, all my other music is shit' 'i don't know where it is' 'can you help me look for it, I was really looking forward to it on the walk to work' 'no, just listen to something else, you can't just listen to Mumford & sons all the time' 'fine' and I took off my headphones and threw it on the bed.

I was really quite upset, probably without good reason, but then he went on 'oh chucking your toys out the pram are you? chucking them on the bed, stop behaving like a baby' 'well, dont treat my like a baby dictating what I can and can't listen to' 'nenene! such a baby, getting in a strop because I don't know where the ipod is' and stomps off to look for the Ipod. I told him to forget it, and I said goodbye to the kids and him and left, with him saying 'i am looking for it now, cant you just be patient? 'no' and I leave.

But I feel so wound up, so upset that he felt that right before I left for work would be a good time to try to impose his control on me, to use some kind of power trip to decide what I can and can't listen to, that he had such little regard for supporting me before work he was happy to treat me like this before I left for work. I walked for a bit, then sat down feeling angry, tearful and my confidence had just evaporated. I just felt overwhelmed by how little support I had this morning. Not at all bothered by how I might be feeling leaving my little boy, or walking into a huge office for the first time in almost a year.

I came home, could not face going into work feeling so negative, the whole point if this was to go to work feeling positive, and build on that. DH said I was making excuses, I told him that was not true, but he was not interested in hearing what I had to say, he said 'you refused to go to work because you could not listen to Mumford & Sons, it is as simple as that, you over-reacted because you could not get your own way, and you can make up something else to make yourself feel better, get angry at me to justify you not going into work if you like' and I got angry at him telling me that I would make stuff up. He told me how it was, not me telling him, and he was interested in what I think about it all.

He told me that I have ruined the day, sabotaged my return to work for whatever godknows reason, and am pretending it is because I did not have the right music.

it has nothing to do with the bloody music. But he says anything I say other than what he is saying is me making stuff up. Oh and now apparantly I am sulking.

What is your verdict ladies.

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fedupofnamechanging · 15/07/2010 11:20

I have to wade in again and say that regardless of whether he wanted to listen to his ipod or not, he should have lent it to his wife because she is his wife and she asked .

Also, the OP should be able to rely on her husband for help and support. She shouldn't have to do everything herself and not ask him for anything. Otherwise, what's the point of being in a relationship?

ShirleyKnot · 15/07/2010 11:22
nowherewoman · 15/07/2010 11:24

Reminds me of the sort of thing an ex of mine used to do. I don't think you overreacted at all, is it the sort of thing he does a lot?

ItsGraceActually · 15/07/2010 11:26

OP, it's pretty poor that your solution to this has to be to do everything and arrange everything yourself. And that you're being congratulated on this 'positive' outcome

Cheepz · 15/07/2010 11:26

He did act like a nob - but we all do that sometimes - and his timing was lousy, but he probably had no idea of how much it was effecting you emotionally just petty squabble then once both dug heels in noones going to move and you are on a hiding to nothing

that being said not going to work because of it ... thats pretty lame - i can imagine that feeling - you want something to be one way and then its not and you're upset and it feels like its all crap and you just want to go hom - but seriously - you can't, you have to get on with it. I would be pretty disappointed if any of my team went home because their OH had pissed them off in the morning. Jeez in the rush to get out of the house on time with DS and trains and nursery and the mayhem that would be twice a week for me!!

I had a day pretty recently when I returned to work after miscarriage where feeling fragile and DH been petty and argumentative about something trivial in the morning - dishwasher unloading or something equally petty and I totally overeacted - but I did recognise thats its because I was feeling tense and he had not understood (he is not that emotionally intuitive!) so he didn't realise what a big deal it was and thought I was being a lunatic. But I still went to work!

What you described reminds me of that

ItsaJollyHolidayforMary · 15/07/2010 11:27

shiney and kharma both spot on. Why can't I ever get my thoughts to make sense like that? Although, not sure about the apology bit. On hindsight, I should have figured he would want a rise, subconsciously (don't think for a moment he did it consciously) and just carried on. I will try to think about things like that in future when he acts like this (which he does occasionally, not always) and not give him satisfaction, as now, he is right and i am wrong.

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ItsaJollyHolidayforMary · 15/07/2010 11:28

cheepz sorry to hear about your miscarriage. Returning to work after that must have been hard.

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ShirleyKnot · 15/07/2010 11:30

But you're NOT wrong JollyHoliday.

You are not wrong. HE is wrong.

IndigoSky · 15/07/2010 11:31

Definitely a control thing. And he's also very jealous of your career and feels threatened by your return to work imho. The problem is he won't see it that way so you have a stalemate.

The way he has dealt with it shows a degree of malice on his part when you most need his support.

He is BU.

ItsaJollyHolidayforMary · 15/07/2010 11:33

shirley will concede that I was wrong to let it stop me going to work. I should have got through it enough to go to work, that was silly and a lesson learnt. BUT, I agree with you, shineynewthings and kharma itsgrace and the others who think he is a nob, that in pretty much every other aspect, he was wrong. I still think he was, actually.

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ItsaJollyHolidayforMary · 15/07/2010 11:35

indigosky but the stalemate is no good, so where from here? yes, next time, i will not let it stop me from doing something I want. But I can't give up my job, and would not even if I could to make him feel better.

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whatname · 15/07/2010 11:35

ah, i know who they are now!! pretty good!
sorry, just trying to lighten things!

Cheepz · 15/07/2010 11:35

Thanks IJHFM, it was (although have had 3 so kind of used to it!) but this time people at work knew because it was later so it was hard. But you just have to put your chin up and go into it thinking I am just going to handle this.

It was a shame DH did not recognise that not only did I need his support that day but also that it was not a good day to act like a twat, but not a surprise ... I internalise my feelings alot, all my worries and concerns .. I work them through in my head, on mn, with my mum / friends so he probably had no idea that I would react so strongly because he didn't know how I was feeling - because I didn't tell him - and he isn't a mid reader .. do you think thats abit of whats going on here?

ShirleyKnot · 15/07/2010 11:37

(I just hope you've got Mumford & Sons BLARING in the kitchen as we speak...)

IndigoSky · 15/07/2010 11:37

You just have to let it pass. Don't apologise to him - you have done nothing wrong. He won't apologise to you so you just have to wait for it to blow over. Not ideal but you mustn't apologise just to pamper to his behaviour.

IndigoSky · 15/07/2010 11:38

pander

Shineynewthings · 15/07/2010 11:38

IAJHFM I can always make sense for other people, when i'm going through my own upheavals I'm as non-sensical as the rest!

BrightLightBrightLight · 15/07/2010 11:41

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ItsaJollyHolidayforMary · 15/07/2010 11:42

I might go and put them on you know. They do cheer me up, and I am NOT going to get myself into a situation where i stop listening to something because he tells me not to. He hasn't stopped listening to AC/DC all these years . I don't think it is healthy for me to stop expecting things from him, so while that is what I feel like doing, doing it ALL myself, I can't do that, not really, firstly it will run me into the ground and secondly it is not right.

I really don't know what his issue with Mumford & Sons are though. I mean, he says i listen to them too much, so he is clearly bored, but he has only listened to them half as much as me

cheepz perhaps. He has in the past been rather jealous of how much I talk to MN about things, so i cut that back significantly. I don't really talk to other people other than him that much about deep issues, that is a problem of my own (since my mum died).

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ItsaJollyHolidayforMary · 15/07/2010 11:44

bright, not because he has to, but because it is a nice thing to do.

cheepz i meant to say, I internalise a lot too, i think about things over and over until I find a way to deal with them. So, i guess, by the time i talk to DH, i have found a way, so he does not know all the stuff that goes on in between, so if it does not work out, he does not know all the stuff that I feel. I guess.

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booyhoo · 15/07/2010 11:48

i would be very interested in hearing his side of this.

you both were being unreasonable. by the sound sof your OP he was being a git but tbh i dont think we have heard the full story. sorry. it is just what i think.

BrightLightBrightLight · 15/07/2010 11:49

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ShirleyKnot · 15/07/2010 11:49

Brightlight - Yeah, up yours spouse for wanting to borrow something off me, which might make your life a little bit easier and more pleasant. HOW VERY DARE YOU?

fedupofnamechanging · 15/07/2010 11:52

brightlight - the OPs spouse did not say he wanted to use it himself. Perhaps he should have put her music on her ipod as requested, then she wouldn't want his ipod. Also,regardless of whether he wanted it himself, on her first day back at work, he should put her needs above his own. The OP probably didn't want to get up and make breakfast and get everything ready, but she did because that would help her husband. I can't see that the OPs DH has done anything to assist her, only hinder her efforts.

I do think that in a relationship if both partners try to do what's best for each other and don't always behave selfishly, the relationship stands a better chance of working out. Too often, it seems, that one person is doing all the giving and making excuses for the inexcusable behaviour of their 'partner'.

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