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Hangxiety

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ERN79 · 07/02/2022 11:34

Hey all.

I'm posting this basically to keep myself accountable.

I'm 2 days post a heavy night of drinking & am crippled by feelings of anxiety, shame & guilt.
I feel like I've let people down. And I feel like a rubbish Mum to my kids, because due to my drinking & then the hangxiety we've had a very quiet weekend. I didn't want to do anything because I feel so anxious.

I'm not a regular drinker but when I do I binge.
I'm sick of feeling so awful in the days after & I want to change.
I'm worried about people's thoughts on my drinking or not drinking & how to get over this.
But this can't go on as it is. It's ridiculous.

So I'm leaving this here to be able to come back to when I start to think about drinking!

Feel free to join me/comment.

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ABE08xx · 07/02/2022 20:20

Hi all! Please can I join as well?

I also binge drink and I’m currently still suffering hangxiety and tearfulness after a night out on Saturday with my female friend. Stupidly went over the top as usual and ended up having a one night stand with a male friend out of our friendship group who I had previously had a thing with (Please no judgment I know it’s stupid)

Of course the anxiety and embarrassment has kicked in now and I can’t bring myself to even look at anybody.

I find my problem is that I just don’t know when to stop. I find that I can drink and drink and drink and not get drunk at all and then think I’m okay so start on heavier drinks and end up really drunk I either make a stupid mistake or just embarrass myself beyond belief. I’m definitely a binge drinker and have been known to take out a hip flask in my early twenties ‘just in case’ or drink a bottle of something at pre drinks!

I just don’t think I can cope with the embarrassment and anxiety anymore from it, but just don’t know how to stop going over the top when I’m out! I just seem to think I’m invincible X

Bitterbean · 07/02/2022 20:38

@ABE08xx
Sorry, I have no advice really, but thanks for sharing, and there's no judgment here. I'm in roughly the same boat, no one night stands as I'm settled with someone, but I had a few in the past and it adds to the excruciating post-mortem and hanxiety after the night doesn't it?

ERN79 · 07/02/2022 22:27

@ABE08xx

Ah bless you. Hello!
Please don't beat yourself up, you're only human.
You sound a lot like me in my younger days. And now to be honest! In that I can just drink & drink.
I think that just posting on here is a sign that at least we want to try change things.
We can only do our best eh.
X

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ERN79 · 08/02/2022 07:19

Morning everyone.
Well I slept awfully last night. I'm still all churned up & anxious. I'm knackered!
One night out just isn't worth the aftermath!
Hope you all had a better night!

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Dontforgetyourbrolly · 08/02/2022 07:23

I gave up getting drunk in 2020 , granted there hasn't been much opportunity to go out ! But I limit myself to 2 drinks and feel so much happier for it .
The downside is that drunk people are suddenly really annoying

ERN79 · 08/02/2022 07:35

@Dontforgetyourbrolly

I gave up getting drunk in 2020 , granted there hasn't been much opportunity to go out ! But I limit myself to 2 drinks and feel so much happier for it . The downside is that drunk people are suddenly really annoying

This sounds good.
Do you feel like you need the 2?
Do you enjoy the 2? And you don't feel you want more?

Writing that down makes me sound like a right lush. 🤦‍♀️
I just feel like if I can do just 2 I can do none. If that makes sense.

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brightspice · 08/02/2022 14:42

@Bitterbean is it the drinking that causes the laughing and the good fun? Or something else?

Say someone you don't know or someone you don't like was in the group drinking with you. Would they be laughing and having loads of fun along with the rest of you?

Possibly but unlikely.

I offer this to show that it's not the drinking that's making the evenings so much fun.

It's the seeing your friends, being with them, sharing a joke. And your thoughts about the alcohol creating the experience, not the alcohol itself.

Which also means that it's possible to have that much fun without the drink. Do you see how that could be true?

carolineannabel22 · 08/02/2022 15:28

This sounds like me to a T in my twenties. I was horrendous - drank because I was lonely and didn't feel as though I fitted in despite being incredibly social. My drinking benders were horrific and how I didn't get sacked i don't know. The anxiety after each nights drinking was horrific. I lost friendships, relationships - everything that mattered esp my self respect. I'd do the one night stands, drugs, lie, cheat - I was a nasty person. And I was desperately unhappy.

So I stopped drinking age 28 with the help of AA and some amazing friends. It's not been easy - I've had real struggles not drinking and I am far less sociable but I'm married with a child which would never have happened if I was drinking. I've met so many different women along the way - so many different stories but essentially all the same.

To those who are really struggling, go to AA and see what you think. I've not been to AA for 13 years but it got me sober and I always know it's there if I need it.

Life is far better for me sober x

keepingthisanon · 08/02/2022 15:29

I'll tell you what made me quit. I don't know if it will work for you but it did for me. It was a conversation with a doctor where we discussed the effects of binge drinking on the liver.

Every time you binge drink - by the technical definition of binge drinking, your is injured. Maybe slightly, maybe quite a lot - people are different, and the liver damage usually doesn't have symptoms until its severe. You don't know how much. Then it recovers, because the liver regenerates, like skin. But it won't recover forever. One day, it will lose that ability. So the question about quitting is - if not now, when? Because you can't binge drink forever without liver damage. So if you don't stop now, when will you stop? I used to think 'when I feel less anxious/when my life is better/when x y z problem is solved' - but it was all redundant really. There will never be a 'right' time. You just have to do it.

keepingthisanon · 08/02/2022 15:30

your liver* is injured, of course.

Pinkclarko · 09/02/2022 07:38

In the same boat here. Happy to keep this thread going to share strategies as it’s a bit different from trying to cut down overall isn’t it (I don’t drink regularly either but when I do-oh boy)

brightspice · 09/02/2022 11:09

My diary entry from 9 Jan 2017: "I lay in bed at 01:00, sweating and unable to sleep. I turned on the light and stayed up for an hour reading articles on giving up the booze. My head was pounding and I took two headache tablets. I read about a middle-aged woman who had not been an alcoholic, but had drunk too much too regularly. She said she was “a million times more productive” without alcohol. I am going to give up the booze. I have had enough."

I was never an alcoholic, had a huge job (vice president at a software company responsible for a team of over 350 people), lovely family, great home life - but felt stuck on the treadmill of regularly (not always) drinking too much. It was never a huge problem but annoying more than anything.

After the diary entry above I decided to NOT take the usual route of counting days sober. This approach had never worked before and seemed so BORING. It also challenged my perfectionist tendencies. It was inevitable I'd be back at day 1 sometime or another.

So I tackled it a different way. I decided I wanted to NOT WANT the drink. Because if you don't want something it's easy to not partake of that thing. Much like cigarettes for me. Or sprouts. Or steak and kidney pudding. Or ice cream.

It took months of trial and error. But I figured it out. These days I don't call myself sober or teetotal or any of those labels (which rank right up there with labels like 'spinster' in my opinion), but choose not to drink. I reserve the right to have a drink if ever I feel like it - but I rarely do because I just don't want it. Truly don't want it.

This change came from within me - not through resisting drink or using willpower or counting days or using af drinks as a crutch (though I do rather like the Peroni af beer) or being nasty to myself or declaring myself powerless to the drink. But from kindness and commitment.

I say this to show it is entirely possible to unpick decades-long drinking patterns. That you don't have to "go sober" if you don't want to. That it is totally possible to live surrounded by alcohol and navigate people's judgements as to why aren't you drinking (which I STILL get!)

Ending this struggle was so transformational I quit my job, distilled what I learned down into a process that moves people from drinking to not wanting to drink in 90 days (though often earlier) and I now spend my days working with people to help them achieve this for themselves.

I'm here to say yes you can do it. Yes you can do it being kind to yourself. Yes you have it within yourself to make the change.

Because when you get to the point where you no longer desire alcohol it really does come easily.

Sorry for the long post but want to shine the light of what's possible.x

DestroyerOfHouseplants · 10/02/2022 13:30

@brightspice

My diary entry from 9 Jan 2017: "I lay in bed at 01:00, sweating and unable to sleep. I turned on the light and stayed up for an hour reading articles on giving up the booze. My head was pounding and I took two headache tablets. I read about a middle-aged woman who had not been an alcoholic, but had drunk too much too regularly. She said she was “a million times more productive” without alcohol. I am going to give up the booze. I have had enough."

I was never an alcoholic, had a huge job (vice president at a software company responsible for a team of over 350 people), lovely family, great home life - but felt stuck on the treadmill of regularly (not always) drinking too much. It was never a huge problem but annoying more than anything.

After the diary entry above I decided to NOT take the usual route of counting days sober. This approach had never worked before and seemed so BORING. It also challenged my perfectionist tendencies. It was inevitable I'd be back at day 1 sometime or another.

So I tackled it a different way. I decided I wanted to NOT WANT the drink. Because if you don't want something it's easy to not partake of that thing. Much like cigarettes for me. Or sprouts. Or steak and kidney pudding. Or ice cream.

It took months of trial and error. But I figured it out. These days I don't call myself sober or teetotal or any of those labels (which rank right up there with labels like 'spinster' in my opinion), but choose not to drink. I reserve the right to have a drink if ever I feel like it - but I rarely do because I just don't want it. Truly don't want it.

This change came from within me - not through resisting drink or using willpower or counting days or using af drinks as a crutch (though I do rather like the Peroni af beer) or being nasty to myself or declaring myself powerless to the drink. But from kindness and commitment.

I say this to show it is entirely possible to unpick decades-long drinking patterns. That you don't have to "go sober" if you don't want to. That it is totally possible to live surrounded by alcohol and navigate people's judgements as to why aren't you drinking (which I STILL get!)

Ending this struggle was so transformational I quit my job, distilled what I learned down into a process that moves people from drinking to not wanting to drink in 90 days (though often earlier) and I now spend my days working with people to help them achieve this for themselves.

I'm here to say yes you can do it. Yes you can do it being kind to yourself. Yes you have it within yourself to make the change.

Because when you get to the point where you no longer desire alcohol it really does come easily.

Sorry for the long post but want to shine the light of what's possible.x

@brightspice this is such a hugely inspirational post. 😍 I would love to know more about how you work with people to help them; so much of what you've written makes sense and I relate to the OP and other posters on here so much.
brightspice · 10/02/2022 15:01

@DestroyerOfHouseplants happy this was of help... yes would love to connect. I'll send you a PM to set it up.

Kerzel · 11/02/2022 20:59

I’d normally be well into a bottle of wine by now but staying strong 💪🏻

ERN79 · 12/02/2022 07:21

Hi all. Glad you're all doing well!

I went out last night & drank.
Not loads. But still drank.
I did manage to moderate though!
This morning I feel OK. Only a little anxiety.
In hindsight I'm now wishing I hadn't drank at all.
But too late now.
I feel I put pressure on myself to do what others are doing & really I shouldn't. 🤦‍♀️

I have no social occasions now until mid March so hopefully now I'll be able to manage a dry streak.

Have a good weekend.

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Lemonweightloss · 12/02/2022 09:08

@ERN79, well done. You may have drank but at least you didn't go mad. It's just a case of being mindful isn't it. I don't think it happens overnight. I haven't drank all week and I've had the best week - I've been to the gym, I've worked hard, I've eaten healthily but best of all, I've been really positive. ( Monday I was hungover so lay in bed all day. Didnt even go to work as I felt and looked awful).
That's good that you have nothing on til mid March. Just take it one day at a time.
I'm out a week today with friends who are big drinkers. But I've got a few ideas to limit what I drink and to avoid the dreaded hangover.
After that, nothing til April.

ERN79 · 12/02/2022 09:25

[quote Lemonweightloss]@ERN79, well done. You may have drank but at least you didn't go mad. It's just a case of being mindful isn't it. I don't think it happens overnight. I haven't drank all week and I've had the best week - I've been to the gym, I've worked hard, I've eaten healthily but best of all, I've been really positive. ( Monday I was hungover so lay in bed all day. Didnt even go to work as I felt and looked awful).
That's good that you have nothing on til mid March. Just take it one day at a time.
I'm out a week today with friends who are big drinkers. But I've got a few ideas to limit what I drink and to avoid the dreaded hangover.
After that, nothing til April.[/quote]

@lemonweightloss thanks.
Yeah, I'm pleased I just had a couple.
The girls I was with are big drinkers, one went home at 10 because she was hammered. The others went back to a friends house, I went, poured a tonic, sat for 5mins & thought nope... They were all drunk & I wasn't so I went home. I was in bed for 11pm. I've just heard from them this morning & they were going until 1am. 🤦‍♀️
So I'm very pleased I left!
I do feel a bit like I've let myself down. But trying not to beat myself up over it.
It sounds like you've had a good week, hope your night out goes well.
Let us know. X

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Noshowlomo · 18/02/2022 12:00

How is everyone doing? xx

Lemonweightloss · 18/02/2022 12:42

@ERN79 @Noshowlomo, hi there ! I'm doing well. I was on a roll of not drinking and feeling great until Tuesday. My dsis needed me ; she's going through a tough time, so went for a drink. I didn't feel great Wednesday but my dsis felt better, so never mind. I've not drank all week, but I will tomorrow as that's when I'm out with friends ( for the weekend actually), but part of me is thinking a bit differently about it. I don't want to get drunk so I'm thinking of just having lagers then maybe wine with our meal. I've got bottles of sparkling water ,too, as these will help slow me down.
I can pace myself. I've done it many times before so it's not beyond my capability.

ERN79 · 19/02/2022 09:12

@lemonweightloss I'm glad your sis feels better.
Hope you have a good weekend too! Good luck with your moderating.
I hadn't drank for 2 weeks, but then went to a friends for a few hours last night, where prosecco was consumed. 🤦‍♀️ Not excessively really. I was home for 8.30. I still feel anxious today though. But I don't feel rough/hungover. Just feel like I've let myself down.
Even though I wasn't hammered I feel like I wish I'd only had a glass or two, instead of the maybe 6 or so I did have.
Done now though eh. So onwards & upwards!

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ERN79 · 19/02/2022 15:11

Realised I had in fact drunk last Friday too... Although not a lot.
🤦‍♀️

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MrsTrumpton · 20/02/2022 10:09

Can I please join? I’m lying in bed with acute hangxiety after a binge session last night with friends. Like so many of you, I only drink one or two nights a week but one is invariably a blowout. I don’t want to stop entirely, I just want to be one of those people who can stop after two! How do people do that? It’s like I have no off switch. I’m not going to drink now until a week on Tuesday when I have a dinner scheduled with a friend.

Lemonweightloss · 20/02/2022 11:04

@MrsTrumpton, hi 👋 and welcome. It's interesting isn't it how some people can stop after 1 or 2. My friend asked me this the other day. I thought about it and realised I actually only know 1 person who can stop after 2 ( my dh !). I know people who don't drink and lots of people who do drink but only 1 who answers that question!
Actually, thinking about it, if I'm with my dh I can stop after 2 ( usually because we're eating), but with my friends ( big drinkers ), I just drink til it's gone or I fall over ( so embarrassing. I'm 55 !!)
The struggle is real.
That's good that you won't drink til a week on Tuesday though.
I won't drink now til April 9th. Well, I'll try not to. I find I can abstain though if I really try.
@ERN79, thanks. Yeah my dsis is really struggling with her ds. He just doesn't want to live anymore. It's heartbreaking 💔 😢