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Fathers who are unaware they fathered a child

57 replies

mogwai · 26/01/2009 19:37

Been a lot in the press last week about the percentage of fathers bringing up children that aren't biologically theirs.

There's another side to this - what about the actual fathers of those children who aren't aware they exist?

If I had a child and didn't know I'd be devastated to find out, but as women we're never in that position, are we?

My mother's sister (ie my auntie) got herself pregnant in the early 1970's by a married man. She told nobody about this, concealed it until 7 months then took herself off to one of those "mother and baby homes" telling everyone at home she'd gone on a 6 week course.

She gave birth to a son, handed him to the adoptive mother personally and went back to the family home. She'd never have been found out but my own mother found the baby's birth certificate and questioned her. Eventually their mother found out but they never told their father.

My auntie married and had another son two years later, followed by two more children. She was a lovely mum and a sort of second mum to me, though I had no idea I had a slightly older cousin - always thought I was the oldest grandchild.

Sadly she died of cancer when her children were still small. Years later my mum told me the story and said she'd left her own name as a contact with the adoption authorities in the event that this boy ever came looking for his mother. I often felt I hoped he didn't come looking as he'd run the risk of being devastated at what he found.

We are both 36 now and he's never some forward. His younger siblings have been told about him (by a male relative and I wasn't sure about the wisdom of this...) but, wondering about his father, I asked my mum.

Turned out my mum knew who his father was, though it's not on his birth certificate. As my grandma is dead, my mother is the only person who knows this information and I'm the only person she's told.

His father, it turns out, was a famous face locally in the 1970's and since then he's built a successful business empire in the entertainment industry. He comes up if you google his name and he's easily contactable - I actually read about him in one of the Sunday broadsheets a couple of weeks ago.

I don't know whether he ever married but he has a son he knows nothing about. I feel it's important I remember this man's name in case my cousin shows up but I do feel terribly odd knowing this guy knows nothing about his son.

Any thoughts? I think about it a lot.

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theresonlyme · 26/01/2009 19:42

I am so tempted to say tell him.

Sorry, that doesn't help, does it?

BonsoirAnna · 26/01/2009 19:42

I think that it is good that your mother has given you this information, in case she dies before your cousin shows up asking after his mother and father.

And now just keep quiet about it .

mogwai · 26/01/2009 19:47

No but I know what you mean.

A couple of years ago (one christmas) after a few too many drinks I actually emailed him under the guise of looking for an old acquaintance.

He emailed me back immediately and was absolutely lovely, a really nice bloke.

Of course by then I was sober and I thought, you know, oh my god, what have I done?

I mailed him back saying it was a case of mistaken identity and that was the end of the matter.

It helps nobody, especially not if my cousin never comes forward.

But this guy must be at least 60 now. He won't live forever. What could I tell my cousin about his father if he ever came forward? I sometimes think I could at least tell him his father knew he existed and tell him what his attitude to the matter had been. Would he have wanted to meet him? Would he have wanted to leave any information for him? A letter?

Helps nobody but I think these issues are the reasons I think about it often.

I never knew my own father though did know who he was. I eventually met him in my mid twenties. He was a waste of space, to be honest, but it helped me deal with the situation to have had some words from him.

And then again, at 36, surely he'd have come forward before now?

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theresonlyme · 26/01/2009 19:54

You have to tell him.

Have you any contact with the son?

mogwai · 26/01/2009 19:58

no, the son has never come forward.

Once you tell somebody, you can't go back and un-tell them.

And if he wants to know his son, I'm pretty sure he won't be able to contact him anyway - isn't the contact one way only?

Surely better left to lie?

(but something inside me longs to tell him - can't decide what my motives are).

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theresonlyme · 26/01/2009 20:22

I know exactly who my Dad is and where he lives. I know who he is married to and what his children and grandchild are called. I know he doesn't want to know me but it means something to me that I know who he is.

mogwai · 26/01/2009 20:25

and if he never ever comes forward?

Would I ask this guy (the father) for some sort of message?

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knockedgymnast · 26/01/2009 20:33

I definately think you should tell him (the father). What if he died and didn't know he had fathered a son? He deserves to know and I do think that you should tell him.

As I was fostered, I have never met my dad. He fathered two of us, that I know about (my brother who died a couple of years ago) and myself. I have always wanted to find him and even rang the Trisha show, as I was so desperate

I often find myself thinking about him and wonder whether he knows that my mother is dead too. I know his name, but he seems to have vanished off the face of the earth!!

Good luck and I hope it all works out well for you all

theresonlyme · 26/01/2009 20:35

I feel like I am a lone voice on here.

I would be so tempted to contact the father, remind him of your past contact, and tell him you believe he has a son and you felt he should know. You could say that you lost your nerve last time and wanted to be sure that it was the right thing to do, ie telling him he has a son. I would then leave it at that and see if he comes back to you.

Be prepared for him thinking you are out to scam him though it doesn't seem likely as you said he sounded nice.

Bullerbychildren · 26/01/2009 20:54

If you were to tell him you would be being meddlesome IMHO. He isn't a father in any sense of the word other than biological i.e. he provided the sperm during an adulterous affair. A father is the man who brings you up, is a constant and supportive presence throughout your life. I think you should find something else to occupy your time.

theresonlyme · 26/01/2009 20:55

Sorry, but bollocks.

mogwai · 26/01/2009 23:17

I love the last message.

Honey, I have three jobs, a three year old, a large house to run, a busy social life and I'm pregnant.

Plenty to occupy my time.

But also compassion.

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oliviasmama · 26/01/2009 23:52

I think "sorry but bollocks" too.

Put yourself in the position that the father dies tonight, how do you feel tomorrow morning. Sad that you didn't tell him or relieved as it's taken the responsibility away from you.

If you do tell the father, you've done your bit, it's then up to him what the future holds.

IMHO I would tell him.

TheFallenMadonna · 27/01/2009 00:08

What could the father properly do with the knowledge? The son has not tried to make contact.

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PortAndLemon · 27/01/2009 04:08

What good does it do the father to tell him. You're basically saying "You have a son, but you are never ever ever going to be able to see him or even know his name." -- you might as well add a "Bwahahahahahaha!" Victorian melodrama cackle onto the end for good measure.

If there was a sign that the son wanted to make contact with his birth family, then that's a different matter. But he's 36 and it's not happened yet, so may well never happen.

I don't get in what possible way it would be up to the birth father what the future holds. He has no power at all to do anything.

theresonlyme · 27/01/2009 08:01

I still think you should tell him.

FriarKewcumber · 27/01/2009 09:21

sadly I agree with portandlemon.

FriarKewcumber · 27/01/2009 09:22

to clarify - I'm not sad becasue I agree with portandlemon but because its a sad situation. Agreeing with P&L is always a pleasure.

TheFirstLiffey · 27/01/2009 09:28

Unless he has the choice to form a relationship with his child then it will just make him sad.

TheFirstLiffey · 27/01/2009 09:30

But.... I think it's good you have the name of the father in case your cousin does ever get in touch.

blueshoes · 27/01/2009 09:33

OP, to be blunt, it is none of your business. Would you care as much if the father were some destitute wastrel?

As portlemon says, what good does it do the father to tell him? What if he were to pressure you for his son's details - you set this thing in motion, you got to see it though. Otherwise, you will just be dumping on this man, to ease whatever you have on your mind.

I don't see how compassion comes into this at all.

Divvy · 27/01/2009 09:37

also the son could be dead now too, and maybe thats why he never came forward.

FriarKewcumber · 27/01/2009 09:43

what if your mother is wrong and the man you think is the father, isn't at all?

mogwai · 31/01/2009 20:38

sorry didn't check back to this.

My mother isn't wrong - the father is the father. She knew too many details.

If you read the post back you will see that I also wonder what it might achieve. I don't think I'm being "meddlesome" (what a curious description!) and yes, I would be in the same quandy if the guy was a waste of space and hadn't made something of his life.

The thing I return to in my mind is this - if this cousin of mine comes forward in the futire and the father is dead, what can I tell him about his father? A name? That his father didn't know he existed?

But yes, it would be like telling the father he has a son, but hey, you'll never meet him (probably). That seems wrong too.

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hellymelly · 31/01/2009 20:46

Well I would tell him,but I agree its tricky.I just think that it would be terrible if he dies without ever knowing.It seems so sad.